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First fly rod build
Posted by: John Menken (205.174.184.---)
Date: February 23, 2016 01:33PM

Hello everyone,
I've been building for almost 8 years but this will be my first fly rod.
What is a good way to start? I see kits from Mudhole that look very attractive and I have no problem beginning there if others think that it is a good idea.
I want something light for panfish or crappie. I want to get started but I'll wait to see what the members here have to say on the subject.
Many thanks.
John M.

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Re: First fly rod build
Posted by: Spencer Phipps (172.56.39.---)
Date: February 23, 2016 01:58PM

Karen at Bingham Ent. to the left also has a dandy kit made on their SHX blanks.

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Re: First fly rod build
Posted by: Donald La Mar (---.kya.res.rr.com)
Date: February 23, 2016 05:28PM

John

With 8 years building experience, you know over 90% of what you need to know to build a fly rod - you just don't realize it. Nonetheless, a kit is a good idea to fix the cost, avoid false starts, and gain confidence quickly.

The kit market is reasonably competitive and you get what you pay for. Most, but certainly not all, target the new builder and those seeking lower price points. Nothing wrong with that so long as your expectations are for functionality and utility and not stroking ego and vanity. So shop around the online retailers, make comparative lists of the contents of various kits and select a 4 to 6 weight rod kit you think the best value that strikes your fancy.

You did not indicate if you are a new or long time fly caster. If you are new to the fly, know that many are still stuck on stupid touting the virtues of the super fast, high modulus, glorified tomato stakes disguised as fly rod blanks. The good news is softer / slower actions are re-gaining popularity and fiberglass is making a comeback. Generally, the relatively slower actions are easier to learn to cast. If you are already a fly fisherman then you already know what you prefer.

In addition to purchasing a kit, search for and watch as many YouTube videos on fly rod building. Again, I suspect you know the vast majority of what you need to know, but the videos might be another way to build confidence. Yes, fly rod reel seats are in the wrong place, the grips are oddly shaped, and snake guides are a little different. But guides are guides, wraps are wraps, and finish is finish, so go for it.

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Re: First fly rod build
Posted by: curtis drumm (---.hsd1.md.comcast.net)
Date: February 24, 2016 12:15AM

As Donald said you have the majority of what you need for the build, and what he said about broom sticks disguised as fly rods is very true I gess there mistaking them for bass rods.
As he said fiber glass or E-glass cant be beet im a bit old school. I really like the Batson products as well as St. Q,
the one thing you want to do is pay close attention to the spine, stratest side normaly the same side.but not always If you Get the spine left or right of center the rod will twist under stress.

I built a 6-w rod on the stratest side only to test the difference in performance, when the rod was finished I put the rod in the spine finder and started to add 1/4 lb. at a time it took only the first weight the rod twisted about 10 deg. to the right as you
would hold it.

I now use it to let folks see for them selfs the differance in casting accuracy it missis the target to the right every time, you must compensate.
One thing I found also is the softer the rod the smaller the affect, the stiffer the rod more affect.

Curt
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Re: First fly rod build
Posted by: Michael Blomme (---.direcway.com)
Date: February 24, 2016 02:33AM

John The only concern I have with a rod kit is that they very often include several different size running guides (snake guides) when you only need one size. A typical 9 foot fly rod that you want to use a six weight fly line with needs one stripping guide (size 10 or 12) and the running guides. [Some fly fishers prefer two stripping guides.]

In terms of action this is really a personal choice. People who are just learning to fly cast often prefer a slower action rod. Information of the action of the rod, the power of the rod, and the feel of a rod can be found in a series of articles written by Dr. Hanneman. Just look up Common Sense System on the materials on the top left of this page. Last year I built a Pac Bay Quickline fly rod which is fast action and has the best feel in a rod that I have felt in a long time. I'm planning on building a Batson Eternity 2 fly rod this summer---this is also a fast action rod. I wish you well on your project.

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Re: First fly rod build
Posted by: Phil Erickson (---.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net)
Date: March 01, 2016 10:35PM

Curtis, I do not understand how the guides on the bottom of the rod can twist uphill under weight? I can understand the theory of deflection along the spine, but as almost no one cast front to back on the same plane, the spine becomes irrelevant.

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