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Stress test before guide placement with guide placement glue
Posted by: Glenn McMurrian (---.bvtn.or.frontiernet.net)
Date: February 18, 2016 12:56PM

Just how does one adjust the guide's on a Rod if guide placement glue is used and the guides are glued in place.

Glenn McMurrian

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Re: Stress test before guide placement with guide placement glue
Posted by: Scott Strength (---.genesco.com)
Date: February 18, 2016 02:43PM

Glenn,

What type of rod are you building? Casting, Spinning, or Fly?

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Re: Stress test before guide placement with guide placement glue
Posted by: Glenn McMurrian (---.bvtn.or.frontiernet.net)
Date: February 18, 2016 03:17PM

Casting rod and the guides need to be constantly adjusted in a stress test.

Glenn McMurrian

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Re: Stress test before guide placement with guide placement glue
Posted by: Scott Strength (---.genesco.com)
Date: February 18, 2016 03:36PM

The reason I asked is because I've tried about every method of securing the guides on a casting blank, but the problem is when you put it under load the guides want to twist around the rod. I've been using small cable ties. 3 or 4 inches long by 2mm. You can get a 1000 pack pretty cheap. you can move them a little also. If you're going to glue them then you'll have to break them free and reposition. It's time consuming either way. I'm sure someone else may have a better idea, but this is how I've been doing it. Thanks!

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Re: Stress test before guide placement with guide placement glue
Posted by: bill boettcher (---.dyn.optonline.net)
Date: February 18, 2016 04:01PM

You use TWO lines One to hold the blank in a stress position And ANOTHER though the guides with a little weight on to keep it slightly tight Not Too Tight

Sounds like you are using one line and putting pressure on the guides

Try The search with Static Testing a rod All dates
here
[www.rodbuilding.org]

Bill - willierods.com

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Re: Stress test before guide placement with guide placement glue
Posted by: Jay Burns (---.sub-70-209-132.myvzw.com)
Date: February 18, 2016 04:18PM

Exactly I tie one line from the tip to a weighted item and then use a casting plug or bullet weight to keep the second line just tight enough to track the line flow in the guides

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Re: Stress test before guide placement with guide placement glue
Posted by: bill boettcher (---.dyn.optonline.net)
Date: February 18, 2016 04:50PM

Several things come to mind
Guides are a high type Guides on top of a blank always tend to want to go Down Having the ring as close to the blank may help
Weight is too heavy Try a lighter weight You don't need much
Also
This is why many use a Spiral Wrapped rod No twist on the blank Runners are at the bottom or the 180 on the rod as a spinning rod

If some one has any ideas Chime in

Bill - willierods.com

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Re: Stress test before guide placement with guide placement glue
Posted by: Steve Gardner (---.nc.res.rr.com)
Date: February 18, 2016 06:39PM

If your guides are trying to twist around the blank when stress testing?
Then you are not doing something correct. Listen to Bill and Jay

This link should help you understand the concept
[www.rodbuilding.org]

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Re: Stress test before guide placement with guide placement glue
Posted by: Phil Ewanicki (---.res.bhn.net)
Date: February 18, 2016 08:41PM

Use elastic sewing thread to secure your guides. Take six or seven tight turns around each guide foot and tie a square knot with the ends. This will hold your guides firmly in place but will still allow you to move them little by little using inchworm-like slides and pushes. When you have found and marked ideal guide locations just touch the thread with a razor blade and it will "jump" off the blank leaving no residue. You by this thread at any sewing supplies store.

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Re: Stress test before guide placement with guide placement glue
Posted by: David Baylor (---.neo.res.rr.com)
Date: February 19, 2016 01:22AM

I used the elastic sewing thread that Phil mentioned and it is great for positioning guides. Definitely a niffty little tip I picked up as a result of being a member of this site.

As for the guides moving under static load testing ........ what Bill, Jay, and Steve said. Two lines, not one. And I'd suggest a highly visible line for the line running through the guides. It makes the process much easier. At least it does for me.

I also use a highly visible line when doing the final tweaking of the guides just prior to putting finish on the wraps. Personally I use 50# bright yellow braid that I snatched from a spool my dad had.

It works great for seeing if any of your guides are off center of the blank.

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