Hi Fellow rod building addicts. I am a big fan for the Fuji K guides and build most of the rods with the K guide system. My question is what are the advantages/disadvantages between the normal K guides vs. the High K guides. I build Salmon steelhead rods for both Drift fishing and float fishing. I was just wondering if the High K guides would improve the performance in any of my fishing methods.

K guides are all high now except for the #30 and #40 where you have a choice between high and low.
Herb

HERB... OKAY not understanding I see choices between #25 klag (H) and #25 Klag (J) if all K guides are high the same except 30 and 40 then there is no difference between 25 (H) and 25 (J)? someone please clarify... thanks JIM??

I don't know this for a fact but here is how I think it works.

I think guides used to be listed by size with a letter. L = Low; M = Medium; H = High.

Next Fuji came out with a new guide called the KL guide to be used like or replace the LV guides.
Ok, so everyone called them the K guides.

Then Fuji came out with the KL-H guides because they thought it was funny to confuse us even more.
Now suppliers had a problem because there were two types of "K" guides. KL-H is High guides so the "H" was not problem. But the KL could confuse people to think the "L" in KL means Low. (see second sentence). So the letters in the alphabet, in order, being used by Fuji are "H", "K", "L". Since "I" can look like a "1" sometimes so the suppliers pick the letter "J" to say regular "K" guides NOT L(low), M(medium) or H(high).

Again everything I said above is a lie. But it worked to help me understand using my imagination.

Or since that was a lie LOL
print this out and check the height for whatever reel you will use
[anglersresource.net]

Bill - willierods.com

They also no longer use "J" in description.

And - sorry - you must be referring to their Micro guides of which I have no use.
Yeah - they are all over the place.
Sorry for the wrong info. I have to remember that there are other blanks to build on than fly blanks
Herb

First of all forget the "J" designation, Fuji dropped it a few years ago.

Following is a explanation related to SPINNING:

"Regular" K-guides are used in any New Guide Concept (NGC) application just as you would an MN or a Y frame in years past.

The KW (ex: BKWAG) is an NGC double foot guide. The KL (ex: BKLAG) is an NGC single foot guide. The KB (ex; BKBAG) and KT (ex: BKTAG) are both running guides for BOTH NGC and KR CONCEPT.

"High-Frame, Small-Ring" K-guides are used in Fuji's newest layout theory, the KR Concept. KR Concept is actually an improvement over NGC because it controls line flow faster through smaller, lighter rings. It is the result of Fuji research into the whole micro-guide/braided line craze that started getting a lot of attention maybe six or seven years ago. Since then it has become apparent that you don't have to build a micro rod to benefit from what the KR Concept has to offer.

Since smaller higher guides can control line faster, reduction trains can be slightly compressed. Combined, the features of the KR Concept not only reduce the weight of the reduction train, the compressed length of the train also moves weight away from the top 2/3 of the blank and increases sensitivity, speed and recovery (things related to weight in the top portion of the blank). All of these things combine to offer a noticeable increase in the GOOD stuff a well designed KR rod can deliver - smoother, longer casts because line travels in a straighter path through rings, as well as amazing speed and instant recovery (both of which add accuracy and reduce reaction time).

So, the new RV-H is the high frame, small ring K-Series Double Foot for KR CONCEPT ONLY (ex: TRVAG-H). The KL-H is the single foot K-Series guide for KR CONCEPT ONLY (ex: TKLAG-H). The KB (ex; BKBAG) and KT (ex: BKTAG) are both running guides for BOTH THE NGC AND KR CONCEPT.

K-SERIES is now the most complete selection of guides Fuji has ever assembled.

Herb: KR Concept guides never go above size 25 so the 30 and 40 are ALWAYS NGC guides, they just happen to be offered in a high and low frame in those sizes.

There is a complete rundown on all of the K-Series in our new Catalog which RodMaker subscribers will be recieving with the October issue. If you haven't tried a KR build, you should. With the new KR GPS at our web site and the selection Fuji offers it's really very easy. We'll tell you exactly what to buy and if you're like most people who build their first one, your mouth will drop open on the first cast.

Hope this helps, there's a ton more info on our web site including the new GPS module specifically for KR Concept.

Hi Jim,

I am building my first spinning rod an have a few questions regarding line size. The rod is a NFC SW765 (7'6'' heavy with moderate-fast action, 1-3 oz lure) which will be used for striper fishing including tossing large swim baits and live bait. I often use 30-40 lb braid.

I want to use the KR concept and double foot guides for this rod and here are my questions:
Will this concept work well when using 30-40 lb braid? I see a lot of info specifying 20 lb braid, nothing about heavier braid.
Also, do you think double foot guides are necessary? At least for the stripper/reduction guides? All of my salt rods have double foot guides.

Thank you!

Chris

Hi Jim,

I am building my first spinning rod an have a few questions regarding line size. The rod is a NFC SW765 (7'6'' heavy with moderate-fast action, 1-3 oz lure) which will be used for striper fishing including tossing large swim baits and live bait. I often use 30-40 lb braid.

I want to use the KR concept and double foot guides for this rod and here are my questions:
Will this concept work well when using 30-40 lb braid? I see a lot of info specifying 20 lb braid, nothing about heavier braid.
Also, do you think double foot guides are necessary? At least for the stripper/reduction guides? All of my salt rods have double foot guides.

Thank you!

Chris

Chris,
I would go to the boss Bill Falconer, bfalconer@anglersreource.net

I just built a similar rod with Fuji KLH 20H, 10H, 5.5M, then size 5 (or 5.5, cannot remember) runners, KB's and KT's. I am using a size 35 Cabelas reel which is a Daiwa, and it's bigger than a Shimano Stradic 4000. The rod casts very well with 35 pound braid.

Chris, sadly Jim passed a bit over a year ago.

Chris, you can use double foot guides for the KR concept guide train. The RV-H is the double foot alternative.

Check out the link for some guide train options…

[www.guidesnblanks.com]