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Help with resin
Posted by:
Eliseu Cherene
(---.petrobras.com.br)
Date: June 14, 2015 08:35AM
This is occurring when applying the resin, the bench is completely level. I checked everything and it happens constantly. They could help me on what to do?
It would be the centrifugal force? Re: Help with resin
Posted by:
Tom Kirkman
(Moderator)
Date: June 14, 2015 08:36AM
You're applying too much finish. Put on less for starters.
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Posted by:
Eliseu Cherene
(---.petrobras.com.br)
Date: June 14, 2015 08:48AM
How many coats do I apply? Re: Help with resin
Posted by:
bill boettcher
(---.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net)
Date: June 14, 2015 08:58AM
Yes too much finish
Put you finish on -- then stop the turner and take off excess from any drips you will get Hand turn 180 several times and remove any more drips Then start the turner again Bill - willierods.com Re: Help with resin
Posted by:
Jeff Shafer
(---.c3-0.drf-ubr1.atw-drf.pa.cable.rcn.com)
Date: June 14, 2015 09:02AM
Eliseu, the number of applications will vary depending on factors like type of finish, amount applied, etc.. There is no standard number. I apply several very thin coats where some builders prefer fewer and slightly heavier applications. You should consider practicing on a scrap piece of rod blank until you have determined what works best for you and the type of finish that works best for you.
Jeff Re: Help with resin
Posted by:
Eliseu Cherene
(---.petrobras.com.br)
Date: June 14, 2015 09:15AM
This one was very good, could see the video and tell me if I'm doing something wrong?
[www.youtube.com] Re: Help with resin
Posted by:
Tom Kirkman
(Moderator)
Date: June 14, 2015 09:23AM
I would stop short of saying you're doing anything wrong and simply say that there may be better ways to do what you want to do. You may also find that you have more control by apply finish under hand power, rather than applying it while the rod is in a mechanical turner.
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Posted by:
Eliseu Cherene
(---.petrobras.com.br)
Date: June 14, 2015 10:01AM
Thank you my friends. Muito obrigado meus amigos. Re: Help with resin
Posted by:
Jeff Shafer
(---.c3-0.drf-ubr1.atw-drf.pa.cable.rcn.com)
Date: June 14, 2015 01:54PM
IMHO, too much epoxy + too much heat = sagging epoxy. Re: Help with resin
Posted by:
Donald Becker
(---.hawaiiantel.net)
Date: June 14, 2015 04:35PM
Eliseu,
I have had similar results when testing thread from one company. There was so much silicon oil on the thread that the epoxy seemed to grow legs and mound up in one location. Are you using a polyester thread or other sewing thread? Don Becker Re: Help with resin
Posted by:
Bill Sidney
(---.gci.net)
Date: June 14, 2015 06:03PM
if you apply the epoxy at one time an don't keep going back an touching it up, then stop an get the drips as directed above , I have found out that I get a smoother finish all around ,
if I don't go back an try to touch it up, it don't go well for me if I do that , , an if you apply at a fast RPM I like about 30 to 40 RPM some even go faster , brush never touches the wrap , you kind of drip it on from the brush or from the tool you are using, don't know if this will help but I hope , don't give up some of the people here on this forum do it for a living, an do lots of rods, an it will come in time for a smooth finish I think William Sidney AK Re: Help with resin
Posted by:
eric zamora
(---.lightspeed.frsnca.sbcglobal.net)
Date: June 15, 2015 04:24AM
Eliseu,
What kind of thread finish are you using? good info already posted. I use threadmaster lite and apply two coats using a strip of cut plastic card, not a brush. i create 2-3 strips of varying width. the first coat is thin enough to see and feel the individual threads when dry to the touch. the second coat is the same but finishes up smooth. i have used the method of applying heat with a lighter but i hold my flame to the side of the blank. most of the heat is traveling upwards and the sidewise heat is less and just enough to burst any air trapped within. although most apply finish by rotating the blank by hand, i too use a motor, with mine turning around 16rpm. when i used a 6rpm motor, it took to long and the finish would begin to set by the time i reach the end of the blank. but then i'm also wrapping 9 foot fly rods. i often start at the butt end, at the grip. by the time i reached the tip, i use to find the same result you showed in your photos. the combination of less finish and faster rpm helped. eric fresno, ca. Re: Help with resin
Posted by:
Eliseu Cherene
(---.petrobras.com.br)
Date: June 16, 2015 05:11AM
Donald Becker Wrote:
------------------------------------------------------- > Eliseu, > > I have had similar results when testing thread > from one company. There was so much silicon oil on > the thread that the epoxy seemed to grow legs and > mound up in one location. Are you using a > polyester thread or other sewing thread? Use a NCP prowarp. Re: Help with resin
Posted by:
Eliseu Cherene
(---.petrobras.com.br)
Date: June 16, 2015 05:15AM
eric zamora Wrote:
------------------------------------------------------- > Eliseu, > > What kind of thread finish are you using? > > good info already posted. I use threadmaster lite > and apply two coats using a strip of cut plastic > card, not a brush. i create 2-3 strips of varying > width. the first coat is thin enough to see and > feel the individual threads when dry to the touch. > the second coat is the same but finishes up > smooth. > > i have used the method of applying heat with a > lighter but i hold my flame to the side of the > blank. most of the heat is traveling upwards and > the sidewise heat is less and just enough to burst > any air trapped within. > > although most apply finish by rotating the blank > by hand, i too use a motor, with mine turning > around 16rpm. when i used a 6rpm motor, it took to > long and the finish would begin to set by the time > i reach the end of the blank. but then i'm also > wrapping 9 foot fly rods. i often start at the > butt end, at the grip. by the time i reached the > tip, i use to find the same result you showed in > your photos. the combination of less finish and > faster rpm helped. > > eric > fresno, ca. Thanks for the information, use NCP prowarp Re: Help with resin
Posted by:
Eliseu Cherene
(---.petrobras.com.br)
Date: June 16, 2015 05:18AM
Many thanks to everyone who helped me and spent their tips, very grateful. Forgive me English but I am Brazilian, I live in Brazil, Rio de Janeiro.
Regards to all. Eliseu Cherene. Sorry, only registered users may post in this forum.
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