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1st build, nother question
Posted by:
John Tallyn
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Date: April 04, 2015 12:13PM
Moving along on my 1st rod build, I do have a question regarding pulling the tag end thru at the end of a wrap. I'm using a loop of thread, the same size as the thread I'm wrapping with "A", when I tuck it into the loop and pull it back thru, Instead of getting a nice clean even end, where I pull it back thru I'm getting a divot. I know I must be doing something wrong, too much tension, not enough? Any thought and advice would be appreciated. So far I'm fairly happy with how the rod build is going, been reading past threads trying to glean more info, appreciate all the help.
John Re: 1st build, nother question
Posted by:
Michael Blomme
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Date: April 04, 2015 12:27PM
John,
Years ago I read a book on fiberglass rod building by Dale Clemens. In the section on wrapping he explained a method he had developed. He inserted the thread loop in the wrap about three or four threads earlier so the loop was covered by more thread. When he finished the wrap, he inserted the tag end of the thread through the loop. He then gently pulled the loop until it was just under the firs thread of the wrap. He then cut the tag end off and then he finished pulling the loop through. This buried the tag end under the wrap and there was no need to do any trimming. You might want to try that. I also use this on any trim rings I put on my wraps. Good Luck. Mike Blomme Re: 1st build, nother question
Posted by:
roger wilson
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Date: April 04, 2015 12:53PM
John,
One thing that makes pull loops easier to pull is to use braided fishing line. I use 10 lb test power pro line. I put a small bright bead in the loop before tying it to give something to grab and to also be able to see if it is dropped. One thing about pulling your end loop back under the trhead, is to pull it back at about a 70-80 degree angle to the wraps, continuing with the pull loop as the thread was going before it was tucked under. By keeping the angle shallow, rather than at 90 degrees, there is much less pulling in - on the outer loop as might be the case, if the tag end is pulled under the wraps at 90 degrees. ' Also, if you are making a divot you are likely pulling the tag end too much. You want the tag end snug, but not so tight that it causes compression at the edge where the loop is pulling in. Take care Re: 1st build, nother question
Posted by:
Bill Sidney
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Date: April 04, 2015 01:23PM
if you use BRAIDED line make sure you clean it with some DA or rubbing as it has a coating on the BRAID that don't stick well with your
wrap , you only do it once to clean the BRAID then you are good to go till you loose it an make a new one, { I use 8 LB BRAID } William Sidney AK Re: 1st build, nother question
Posted by:
Randolph Ruwe
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Date: April 04, 2015 01:28PM
Michael, Dale Clemens didn't develop that method, I did. I taught it to Dale at the first PNW RodCrafters regional seminar held in Oregon. I use a thin braided mono about 6 pound test as a pull through loop, and usually make ten wraps over it before pulling snug, then cut the end of the wrap close, anchor it with my thumb and then pull through at about a 30 degree angle away from me. Re: 1st build, nother question
Posted by:
Michael Blomme
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Date: April 04, 2015 02:07PM
Hi Randolph,
I am sorry I never knew that. Thank you for clearing that up. Just before I sent that post, I wondered if Dale Clemens had actually developed that technique. In any event, I also thank you for developing that technique. I Have used it for many years. Mike Blomme Re: 1st build, nother question
Posted by:
larry roby
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Date: April 04, 2015 04:44PM
thats goid stuff im learning everytime I log in. Re: 1st build, nother question
Posted by:
Michael Danek
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Date: April 04, 2015 08:22PM
If your pull through process leaves a "divot," which I think means an area of the wrap that is pulled toward the guide, this can be minimized by burnishing. Of course it is best to not have it, but if you get it, you can minimize it. Sorry, only registered users may post in this forum.
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