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Odd setup of permagloss Finish question
Posted by:
Lou Auret
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Date: September 17, 2014 02:50PM
I use PG at least twice a week and am comfortable with it most times.
On longer stretches of blank i use a technique similar to how one does a grip: spin rod in a lathe at about 100 to 200 rpm apply PG saturated foam brush with one pass, wait 30 minutes then come back from the other direction and its done. So lat night on a sage 4 wt i did that over 3 coats of CP where the logo is and my name/company sticker sits and after two coats its setup sort of grainy like fine( way smaller than actual sugar) crystals formed. Enough you can feel with fingertips. I know it never dries like epoxy but this is not right. So do i strip and do over or light sand and third coat it or check environment for contaminnents or? Humidy was 75% and temp 75 at time of application in doors. Room was prepped with dyson prior to application so its pretty dust free . Re: Odd setup of permagloss Finish question
Posted by:
Tom Kirkman
(Moderator)
Date: September 17, 2014 04:41PM
The crystals would have to be either air bubbles or actual grit/dirt of some kind. I'd apply a little on a test stick and make sure nothing has gotten in there, or was in your foam brush.
Beyond that, you should be able to lightly sand the surface and reapply another coat. .............. Re: Odd setup of permagloss Finish question
Posted by:
Randolph Ruwe
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Date: September 17, 2014 05:19PM
Thirty minutes between coats is not long enough by far. Was the humidity lower than usual for your area? I have used Perma Gloss since before it had a name, and never recoat in under 6 hours. Re: Odd setup of permagloss Finish question
Posted by:
bill boettcher
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Date: September 17, 2014 05:32PM
I have let Permagloss dry for one or two days and when re-coating it acted like Lacquer over enamel paint
When I do several coats I let it set for MAYBE 15 minutes I have found this works better Just letting it set I have always said it is too hot and a auto clear two stage was a lot better and could be adjusted to the temperature Bill - willierods.com Re: Odd setup of permagloss Finish question
Posted by:
Tom Kirkman
(Moderator)
Date: September 17, 2014 05:54PM
Do you get wrinkles or crystals? There is a difference and they indicate different problems.
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Posted by:
Lou Auret
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Date: September 17, 2014 09:22PM
Tom, looking real close its wrinkles. Thought it was grains but its wrinkles. Re: Odd setup of permagloss Finish question
Posted by:
Tom Kirkman
(Moderator)
Date: September 17, 2014 09:36PM
Okay, that is indeed indicative of a recoat that is either too soon, or too late. Generally, a wait time of 1-hour between coats is best.
Let what you have dry for a day or two, and then sand lightly and recoat. I think you'll be okay. ....................... Re: Odd setup of permagloss Finish question
Posted by:
Lou Auret
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Date: September 17, 2014 09:41PM
Thanks. Re: Odd setup of permagloss Finish question
Posted by:
Chester Kiekhafer
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Date: September 19, 2014 12:46PM
How did it turn out any updates? Re: Odd setup of permagloss Finish question
Posted by:
Lou Auret
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Date: September 19, 2014 07:41PM
Guys, thanks for help.
Progress report: I sanded with block and 180 then 400 grit under running water and gave it thin coat( once dry of course), better but not 100%. Left it 24 hours and again sand and thin coat and now i am finally happy. Will see after another 24 hours. I have a few miniature glass bottles with Pg, epiphanes,deft, and other finishes in them. I leave them outside together with coated blanks/thread etc for testing and its surprising to me how much some of them can shrink/possibly wrinkle after a few weeks. PG was the big shocker to me. At 1/4 inch thick(yes i know you would never have it that thick) it can pull a good few milimeters away from the edge of bottle after a few weeks. Must be a lot of volatiles in it. Re: Odd setup of permagloss Finish question
Posted by:
Lou Auret
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Date: September 20, 2014 09:05AM Re: Odd setup of permagloss Finish question
Posted by:
Herb Ladenheim
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Date: September 21, 2014 02:27PM
Off the question - but I hope that you are using a respirator - not a dust mask - while working indoors. That stuff will mess with your brain cells and lungs.
It would be wise to use it outdoors. read the label and take it seriously. Herb Re: Odd setup of permagloss Finish question
Posted by:
Herb Ladenheim
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Date: September 21, 2014 02:28PM
Off the question - but I hope that you are using a respirator - not a dust mask - while working indoors. That stuff will mess with your brain cells and lungs.
It would be wise to use it outdoors. read the label and take it seriously. Herb Re: Odd setup of permagloss Finish question
Posted by:
Randolph Ruwe
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Date: September 21, 2014 06:49PM
Herb, what "stuff" are you talking about? Re: Odd setup of permagloss Finish question
Posted by:
Herb Ladenheim
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Date: September 22, 2014 07:44AM
R,
Permagloss. Herb Re: Odd setup of permagloss Finish question
Posted by:
Herb Ladenheim
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Date: September 22, 2014 07:45AM
R,
Permagloss. Herb Re: Odd setup of permagloss Finish question
Posted by:
Herb Ladenheim
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Date: September 22, 2014 07:45AM
R,
Permagloss. Herb Re: Odd setup of permagloss Finish question
Posted by:
Lou Auret
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Date: September 22, 2014 08:12AM
Herb, yes Sorry, only registered users may post in this forum.
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