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Color Preserver & Dark Spots
Posted by:
Andrew Bermack
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Date: January 03, 2014 11:09AM
Folks,
Need some help on something that has happened to me twice now. I have wrapped my guides and then coated with two fairly light coats of Flex Coat Color Preserver. I let the two coats dry for around 5 hours or so, they felt dry to the touch so I went ahead with putting on my finish. I noticed that during drying, some dark spots have appeared especially around the guide feet of several of my guides. Is all I did not let the Color Preserver dry enough? I am assuming that is the problem, but am not sure. This is the second time this happened. The bottle says to let dry only one hour... Thanks for the help, Andrew You can't catch any fish sitting on the couch! Houston, TX Re: Color Preserver & Dark Spots
Posted by:
Scott Hovanec
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Date: January 03, 2014 11:38AM
Possibly, the CP didn't fill the tunnels next to the guide feet? Re: Color Preserver & Dark Spots
Posted by:
Billy Vivona
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Date: January 03, 2014 11:54AM
That's why I don't use CP or NCP thread. In spite of what you think should happen, teh reality is that this happens more often than people talk about. The threads aren't packed tight enough. Or the thread just @#$%&. When you go over a guide the thread loses tension so this can be a factor. It's not the CP. Re: Color Preserver & Dark Spots
Posted by:
Tom Kirkman
(Moderator)
Date: January 03, 2014 01:26PM
When you apply CP you want to thoroughly wet the thread. Skip the light coats and apply it so that the thread turns uniformly dark. There's no need to slop it on, but get enough on there that you see the threads turn uniformly dark. One coat is generally sufficient although two won't hurt.
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Posted by:
Michael Danek
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Date: January 03, 2014 04:01PM
I have had this happen with a clear variety of CP when I used only one application. When I used two with the same stuff , I had good success. With the Flex Coat CP I always use two coats, apply it liberally as Tom says, concetrate on the tunnel, then after about 10 minutes blot any that is on the surface. Same for second coat. Don't apply finish until next day. This should result in perfect windings every time.
I also do a lot of wrapping without CP in order to get colors I cannot get with CP, and there is never any blotching. However, this limits the colors you can get. While it also offers some colors you cannot get with CP. Like garnet w/o CP = black cherry on a gray or black blank, evergreen w/o CP = "midnight green" on a gray or black blank (this is almost black exc in bright sun). The sky is the limit, try some experiments. Re: Color Preserver & Dark Spots
Posted by:
Terry Turner
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Date: January 03, 2014 07:39PM
Sounds like you may not have applied enough or let it cure long enough. If you put enough on to fill the tunnels around the guide foot then you'll need the overnight curing time to let it cure properly.
CP gets a bad name but if used correctly, it's a great tool. Terry Re: Color Preserver & Dark Spots
Posted by:
Terry Turner
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Date: January 03, 2014 07:39PM
Sounds like you may not have applied enough or let it cure long enough. If you put enough on to fill the tunnels around the guide foot then you'll need the overnight curing time to let it cure properly.
CP gets a bad name but if used correctly, it's a great tool. Terry Re: Color Preserver & Dark Spots
Posted by:
Randolph Ruwe
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Date: January 03, 2014 07:45PM
I put on a flowing coat of CP, one that has excess on the wraps, and when I have worked from the butt to the tip, I go back and lift off any excess with a wiped off brush. No dark spots and a perfect base for the finish. Re: Color Preserver & Dark Spots
Posted by:
Andrew Bermack
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Date: January 03, 2014 08:23PM
Just want to thank everybody for the responses. I have read a lot of bad press on CP, but from all I have read today it seems that done right CP is a great tool. In this case I have a dark gray blank and am using very bright red and gray wraps I need the CP to work perfectly this time. I cut off the wraps that were not perfect and have redone them. I'm about to redo the CP on those wraps now I'll let them dry 24 hours this time. Thx again.
Andrew You can't catch any fish sitting on the couch! Houston, TX Re: Color Preserver & Dark Spots
Posted by:
Tom Kirkman
(Moderator)
Date: January 04, 2014 10:00AM
I don't want to assume anything, but just in case, do not thin the CP.
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