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static guide placement for baitcaster
Posted by: Arthur Long (---.lightspeed.hstntx.sbcglobal.net)
Date: August 05, 2013 02:52PM

Hi fellow rodbuilders, I'm about to ask a question that I know has absolutely been beaten to death yet, I still am in a fog about the solution. I understand that the objective is to keep the line following the curve of the blank under load and to keep as best as possible the line off the blank. My question is this, no matter how I manipulate my guides along the blank at some point they come close or do make contact with the blank, depending on load. How do I attain both? It's very possible I could be overthinking this situation. It's really getting me frustrated. :-/. So, I need input from those really knowledgeable in this area.
Thanks in advance
Arthur

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Re: static guide placement for baitcaster
Posted by: Andres Perez (---.coastalsystemsint.com)
Date: August 05, 2013 03:14PM

Add more guides.

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Re: static guide placement for baitcaster
Posted by: Chad Huderle (---.static.twtelecom.net)
Date: August 05, 2013 03:51PM

Try a spiral wrap, no extra guides needed and makes the rod more stable under load.

Thanks,
Chad Huderle

Huderle Custom Rods
Prior Lake, MN

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Re: static guide placement for baitcaster
Posted by: Tom Kirkman (Moderator)
Date: August 05, 2013 04:14PM

Everything ends up being a bit of a compromise. To completely keep the line off the rod blank under any and all load will require a large number of guides that may then cause you to lose other important aspects of rod performance due to the increased weight they'll add. Fortunately, guides are becoming lighter and lighter all the time so the weight penalty isn't nearly as much as it once was.

Also keep in mind that it's not absolutely necessary to keep the line off the blank under the heaviest loads. Generally, reels aren't used as winches. You're not retrieving line when the rod is under a heavy load - you gain line by pulling with the rod and retrieving the recovered line as you lower the rod back down.

I would say that as long as the line doesn't pass under the rod, creating a sort of "bowstring" effect between any pair of guides, you've got enough guides.

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Re: static guide placement for baitcaster
Posted by: Randolph Ruwe (---.hsd1.wa.comcast.net)
Date: August 05, 2013 04:19PM

Good explanation Tom.

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Re: static guide placement for baitcaster
Posted by: Arthur Long (---.lightspeed.hstntx.sbcglobal.net)
Date: August 05, 2013 09:10PM

Thanks Chad but, I already have done a couple of rods in the spiral.
To Tom, thanks for chining in on this one because I noticed on some of my store bought rods that through various loads they get close or make slight contact. Wheeew!!! I feel a lot better now.
Thanks again to all who commented, offered suggestions and gave direction. This is what makes this board great. :-)

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Re: static guide placement for baitcaster
Posted by: Andres Perez (---.coastalsystemsint.com)
Date: August 06, 2013 10:36AM

Arthur Long Wrote:
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> Thanks Chad but, I already have done a couple of
> rods in the spiral.
> To Tom, thanks for chining in on this one because
> I noticed on some of my store bought rods that
> through various loads they get close or make
> slight contact. Wheeew!!! I feel a lot better
> now.
> Thanks again to all who commented, offered
> suggestions and gave direction. This is what makes
> this board great. :-)


Arthur,
You hit the nail right on its head. This forum is full of info and people willing to help.
Thanks and good luck,
Andres Perez
Miami, Fl

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