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Cork
Posted by: Mark Bonnell (---.vfserver.com)
Date: July 15, 2013 07:24PM

Can anyone here advise which dealers or sponsors grade their cork by the Rodmaker cork grade scale? I am through buying cork with terms like flor or AAA. Please advise. Thanks.

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Re: Cork
Posted by: Mark Tobiasz (---.dyn.optonline.net)
Date: July 15, 2013 07:39PM

As I'm only familiar with grading that uses Flor, AAA , A& better, etc, I'd like to ask what the Rodmaker grading system is.

Forgive me, but I started building rods over 20 years ago and it's been a while since I've purchased any cork. I'd bought a closeout of grips and AA rings some time ago and haven't needed any. Heck, I still have some glued up cork sticks I bought from Clemens.
So, what's the scoop?

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Re: Cork
Posted by: Don Morse (---.dhcp.aldl.mi.charter.com)
Date: July 15, 2013 07:48PM

Mark Tobiasz Wrote:
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> As I'm only familiar with grading that uses Flor,
> AAA , A& better, etc, I'd like to ask what the
> Rodmaker grading system is.
>
> Forgive me, but I started building rods over 20
> years ago and it's been a while since I've
> purchased any cork. I'd bought a closeout of grips
> and AA rings some time ago and haven't needed any.
> Heck, I still have some glued up cork sticks I
> bought from Clemens.
> So, what's the scoop?


[www.rodbuilding.org]

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Super Tight Lines......Don

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Re: Cork
Posted by: Tom Kirkman (Moderator)
Date: July 15, 2013 08:03PM

Neither "flor" nor "AAA" represent anything in particular. Either can be good, or terrible, and still be correct. The RodMaker cork grade scale is the only cork grade scale with a representative scale behind it.

[www.rodbuilding.org]

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Re: Cork
Posted by: Walt Foreman (---)
Date: July 15, 2013 11:49PM

Have any cork dealers begun conforming to this system yet? I for one would make a point of patronizing such a dealer. More than once I have had the experience of ordering cork listed as the highest grade for that dealer - sometimes Flor, sometimes several As - only to have it arrive and be highly disappointed in the quality.

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Re: Cork
Posted by: roger wilson (---.hsd1.mn.comcast.net)
Date: July 16, 2013 02:11AM

Mark,
Simply put, if you are unsure of a vendor or cork quality, buy a few rings and ask the supplier for "true" representative samples of the lot type.
Most vendors will honor your request.

Then, if you order a few hundred or few thousand rings, you will not be surprised.

The other thing to consider in these days of lower and lower grades of cork due to the world wide diminishing supply, consider building rods with materials other than cork.

This is the primary reason why many many rod manufacturers are either going to grips that use almost no cork, like a rod with a split grip that uses 4 rings behind the reel seat, no fore grip and a butt cap of a different material.

Lots of other manufacturers are going to composite, plastic, fiberglass or foam grips as well.

Be safe

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Re: Cork
Posted by: Col Chaseling (---.lns5.ken.bigpond.net.au)
Date: July 16, 2013 03:22AM

Hi Mark,
Far as I know nobody has adopted the Rodmaker scale which is definitely a shame.
Even Cork4U, sponsor, still uses the old scale. Their best grade is top flor which is about the best you will find these days.

ESFNEM Col
Port Kembla, NSW
Australia

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Re: Cork
Posted by: Ken Finch (204.45.65.---)
Date: July 16, 2013 07:26AM

I think Bingham uses the Rodmaker scale. At least it was shown on their website for the cork they sell.

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Re: Cork
Posted by: Jim Gamble (---.res.bhn.net)
Date: July 16, 2013 08:46AM

Bingham and Picky Bastard were both using the RodMaker scale. Unfortunately, neither got enough support to continue sales. People were too willing to risk direct importation OR didn't want to pay for the domestic service (importation, grading, etc.). The only current option is to take your chances UNLESS you can find a vendor that is willing to give you a guaranteed return policy, including paid/shared shipping expense. I do recommend that you start/continue to encourage vendors to adopt the RodMaker Cork Grading System, it works very well and it removes nearly all subjective opinion from the sales/purchasing aspect.

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Re: Cork
Posted by: Mike Barkley (---.nap.wideopenwest.com)
Date: July 16, 2013 11:29AM

I( pretty much quit buying cork a few years ago due to the high cost/low quality and lack of any standard consistency. I use wood, burl or exotic cork and people love it and I know exactly what I'm getting when I order it

Mike (Southgate, MI)
If I don't want to, I don't have to and nobody can make me (except my wife) cuz I'm RETIRED!!

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Re: Cork
Posted by: roger wilson (---.hsd1.mn.comcast.net)
Date: July 16, 2013 12:39PM

Mike,
Out of curiosity, in the interest of saving weight, have you ever made a handle of Balsa Wood?

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Re: Cork
Posted by: Chuck Mills (---.grenergy.com)
Date: July 16, 2013 01:22PM

I found that Cork4Us FLOR grade is very good CG3 and maybe CG2. If their Top FLOR is better, it would be really good cork.

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