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Did any one else get the memo
Posted by: bill boettcher (---.dyn.optonline.net)
Date: July 02, 2013 03:43PM

Got a newsletter from American tackle

Seems they are coming out with a Casting Micro wave guide set ??

Bill - willierods.com

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Re: Did any one else get the memo
Posted by: Lance Dupre (---.lightspeed.nworla.sbcglobal.net)
Date: July 02, 2013 03:48PM

We have them in stock if anyone would like to try a set. Our website has been down for a few days now because of a server issue. Please give us a call if I could help out with anything.

Lance

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Re: Did any one else get the memo
Posted by: Don Morse (---.dhcp.aldl.mi.charter.com)
Date: July 02, 2013 03:51PM

Yes I have them....in titanium as well!!!

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Super Tight Lines......Don

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Re: Did any one else get the memo
Posted by: Ken Finch (---.onlinehome-server.info)
Date: July 02, 2013 04:31PM

Since the line comes off a casting reel in a straight line, I have to wonder what good this is, other than maybe to catch a few sales from wide eye consumers that don't know any better? Or maybe I'm overlooking something.

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Re: Did any one else get the memo
Posted by: bill boettcher (---.dyn.optonline.net)
Date: July 02, 2013 04:37PM

ken

I am glade you said that before me These guides were made for SPINNING RODS Why a casting set up ??? I don't think Dog Hannon was thinking of Casting rods
They work Great on spinning rods

Bill - willierods.com

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Re: Did any one else get the memo
Posted by: Steve Gardner (---.nc.res.rr.com)
Date: July 02, 2013 07:46PM

I've had some since right around the time Doug passed away.
So they would have had to been in development long before that, while he was alive and able to provide input on their design.

You should not speak on subjects to which you have no information or knowledge. Nor do you get to decide what Dough was thinking without first asking him.



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Re: Did any one else get the memo
Posted by: bill boettcher (---.dyn.optonline.net)
Date: July 02, 2013 07:59PM

No ya got to understand

A casting reel does not have any pigtails to contend with
So why bother --- there is no control of line
Builders are doing Micro guides as the Butt Guide

Bill - willierods.com



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Re: Did any one else get the memo
Posted by: Don Morse (---.dhcp.aldl.mi.charter.com)
Date: July 02, 2013 08:09PM

I am not getting into this too much but this is what the new ATC catalog says about the casting guides

- Smooth line energy transition from reel thru guides
- Effective capture & control of line in one guide
- Tames side to side, up & down line friction waves
- Reduces total guide train weight
- Better rod balancing through guide weight distribution
- Guide foot-print reduction with “single foot” concept
- Blends Micro-Guide & Traditional Concept theories
- Stripper guide prevents line over-run reducing risk of backlash
- Smoother controlled cast maintains/adds distance, reduces fatigue & increases accuracy

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Super Tight Lines......Don

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Re: Did any one else get the memo
Posted by: Ken Finch (---.onlinehome-server.info)
Date: July 02, 2013 08:35PM

Don Morse Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> I am not getting into this too much but this is
> what the new ATC catalog says about the casting
> guides
>
> - Smooth line energy transition from reel thru
> guides
> - Effective capture & control of line in one
> guide
> - Tames side to side, up & down line friction
> waves
> - Reduces total guide train weight
> - Better rod balancing through guide weight
> distribution
> - Guide foot-print reduction with “single
> foot” concept
> - Blends Micro-Guide & Traditional Concept
> theories
> - Stripper guide prevents line over-run reducing
> risk of backlash
> - Smoother controlled cast maintains/adds
> distance, reduces fatigue & increases accuracy

My point exactly. Just advertising jargon.

Don't get me wrong, I think it works excellent on spinning rods, as good as any NGC system but makes no sense on casting rods. But just to satisfy myself I might, maybe, try one and see. But it doesn't work right in my head.

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Re: Did any one else get the memo
Posted by: bill boettcher (---.dyn.optonline.net)
Date: July 02, 2013 09:00PM

How many have his spinning reels ??????

I have not herd any thing about them ???? On here

His spinning guides are just great

I got a Bridge if any one is Interested

Bill - willierods.com



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Re: Did any one else get the memo
Posted by: Tom Wewerka (---.bltmmd.fios.verizon.net)
Date: July 02, 2013 09:24PM

It appears the best way to find out how they work is to do a CASTING Micro Wave Challenge. ?? I am going to order a set and see for myself. I also like to have something different and unique at shows. It stimulates interest and sales.

Tom

tomscustomrods.com

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Re: Did any one else get the memo
Posted by: Ron Weber (---.ph.ph.cox.net)
Date: July 02, 2013 11:24PM

Every one of my spinning outfits both microwave and std have his reels on them and I recommend them to all my clients. Probably have over 10 out there on client builds, as well a 4 that are my own.

Ron Weber

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Re: Did any one else get the memo
Posted by: Jay Lancaster (---.hfc.comcastbusiness.net)
Date: July 03, 2013 09:13AM

I wonder how many folks who are shaking their heads (and fingers) at the casting microwaves have actually tested them...

As far as testing goes...I wonder if they would have any advantage in a simple spiral setup?

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Re: Did any one else get the memo
Posted by: Steve Gardner (---.nc.res.rr.com)
Date: July 03, 2013 10:25PM

I'll share one advantage.
I use 5 or 6mm stripper guides on all casting rods because I have found there to be a performance improvement by doing so. Except on flipping and pitching sticks, where clearance between line and blank is needed for finger space to grab the line with out grabbing the blank. In this case line clearance created by taller/larger 8 or 10mm guides provides that space.

With the Microwave stripper guide I now have both the finger space created by the taller guide frame with the smaller guide ring providing the improved performance.

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Re: Did any one else get the memo
Posted by: Mark Newcombe (---.185.dsl.syd.iprimus.net.au)
Date: July 04, 2013 08:03AM

I have 8 sets here have yet to build with them im sure they will be great.

Cheers

Mark Newcombe
Old Bar NSW
Australia
markscustomfishing.com
American Tackle Pro-Staff

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Re: Did any one else get the memo
Posted by: jim spooner (---.dyn.centurytel.net)
Date: July 04, 2013 09:41AM

Can anyone give us the ring sizes (or I.D.) for the butt guide? Or pictures?

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Re: Did any one else get the memo
Posted by: Don Morse (---.dhcp.aldl.mi.charter.com)
Date: July 04, 2013 10:33AM

Everything you want to know for specs on all of the Microwave Guides are on page 40 of ATC's new catalog.......view-able on their website!!

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Super Tight Lines......Don

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Re: Did any one else get the memo
Posted by: Phil Ewanicki (---.twcny.res.rr.com)
Date: July 04, 2013 10:34AM

Are there any rumors about micro wave guides for fly rods in the works?



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 07/04/2013 09:40PM by Phil Ewanicki.

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