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Madeira Thread
Posted by:
Steve Wann
(---.lsanca.fios.verizon.net)
Date: June 29, 2013 07:19PM
Hey guys,
I have been using Madeira for a little while now and have run across issues with it and color preserver (I have been usung flex coat color preserver). Basically when I have a pattern with dark colors under lighter colors I still get some color bleed through even with color preserver. Have any of you noticed this? Is this an issue only with flex coat brand? Any advice would be appreciated. Re: Madeira Thread
Posted by:
Chester Kiekhafer
(---.client.mchsi.com)
Date: June 29, 2013 08:43PM
I haven't used Mareria thread so I can't help with you there, but how many coats of CP are you applying? When I do mine I apply three coats of CP before applying epoxy. Chester May your line be tight and your beverages be cold! Re: Madeira Thread
Posted by:
Ross Pearson
(---.dlth.qwest.net)
Date: June 29, 2013 08:48PM
I, too, always seem to experience bleed through from a dark colored blank or dark underlying thread when using light colored regular nylon thread. The brand of thread or brand of color preserver doesn't seem to make much of a difference in avoiding the bleed through. To avoid these issues, I use mainly metallic or NCP threads which don't require color preserver and won't bleed through. Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 06/29/2013 08:49PM by Ross W Pearson. Re: Madeira Thread
Posted by:
Col Chaseling
(---.lns5.ken.bigpond.net.au)
Date: June 29, 2013 09:16PM
Hi Steve,
I use mainly madeira thread for all my builds and I get pretty good results. When I do under and over binds it's normally dark over light so i don't have a problem with bleeding from that. I have a few that are just light colours including white over a dark blank and they not prefect but still good IMO. I always pack a lot, use threadmaster chromaseal for cp and apply three coats. That gives me spool colours on most thread and about 95% spool colour on the really light threads like white, pale yellow etc. I don't think the bleed issue is linked to madeira but most threads. Pack carefully and use a few coats of good colour preserver and you should be able to get it as good as possible. ESFNEM Col Port Kembla, NSW Australia Re: Madeira Thread
Posted by:
Phil Erickson
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Date: June 29, 2013 10:19PM
It is like putting light paint over dark, very hard or almost impossible to completely cover up the dark bottom color. Re: Madeira Thread
Posted by:
Steve Wann
(---.lsanca.fios.verizon.net)
Date: June 29, 2013 11:13PM
Thanks for the input guys. I I am pretty sure packing is not an issue but ill double check next rod. I never had bleed with NCP thread, only with madeira. I usually do one solid coat of CP so ill try adding another (or two) next round.. The reason I assume that is not the issue is I can see bleed through with the first layer of CP, so I cant imagine it would clear up with additional layers.
Maybe it is just the nature of the beast. Either way thanks again guys. Always a help here. Re: Madeira Thread
Posted by:
Phil Erickson
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Date: June 30, 2013 12:37AM
NCP is a very different thread as it contains chalk to make it opaque. Re: Madeira Thread
Posted by:
Billy Vivona
(---.nycmny.fios.verizon.net)
Date: June 30, 2013 07:03AM
2 coats of CP Re: Madeira Thread
Posted by:
chris stevenson
(---.bltmmd.fios.verizon.net)
Date: June 30, 2013 08:15AM
2 coats min...sometimes i'll use a water based cp and thin it a bit,not a lot,just a bit.this gives better penetration and more even coverage,drying time is also reduced a bit.i used to use casons but have switched to u-40 and have have better results lately.packing is usually the issue with light over dark,but using Docs roller technique really helps flatten the threads and make the gaps disapear ,negating the problem almost completely. www.southriverrodsllc.com Re: Madeira Thread
Posted by:
Steve Wann
(---.lsanca.fios.verizon.net)
Date: June 30, 2013 10:32AM
Thanks Bill and Chris.
What rolling technique are you referring to? Re: Madeira Thread
Posted by:
Ron Hossack
(---.spkn.qwest.net)
Date: June 30, 2013 02:53PM
Steve Wann Wrote:
------------------------------------------------------- > What rolling technique are you referring to? here you go Steve [www.rodbuildingtutorials.com] Re: Madeira Thread
Posted by:
Steve Wann
(---.lsanca.fios.verizon.net)
Date: June 30, 2013 05:06PM
thanks Ron. Re: Madeira Thread
Posted by:
Steve Wann
(---.lsanca.fios.verizon.net)
Date: June 30, 2013 05:09PM
thanks Ron. Sorry, only registered users may post in this forum.
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