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Friday No No
Posted by: Steve Cox (---.client.mchsi.com)
Date: April 26, 2013 11:19AM

Rod building is a constant adventure in 'Live & Learn' education. Was removing a cracked wooden handle from a beautiful Batson RX8, 9', 3wt. Wrapped the Window Reel seat in a plastic bag and put it in boiling water for 30 secs. Took it out, and wearing leather gloves, quickly twisted the seat loose and removed it. Got a deeper pan and did the same thing for the wooden handle. Wrapped the upper part of the rod just above the handle with a long strip of rubber cut from a bike tire. ( I have done this many times successfully). Once water was boilibng in the deeper pan, I lowered the handle in and left it there for approx 30 secs. One of my dogs ran by and I lost my focus for a split sec and must have let the rod blank hit the top edge of the pan. When I pulled it out and made a firm twist on the handle while other hand was tightly gripped to the wrapped rubber...... the rod broke just above the handle. Perhaps there was a nick there already that I did not notice but I think not. That blank was in almost brand new condition. I'm sure I compromised the strength by allowing the graphite to touch the edge of the hot pan. No one was at home at the time so I both cried and cussed for a short time. And the handle was a beautiful Blabaum! The best rod blank I own broke. This afternoon I will attempt to create and extension piece for a new handle. As I said..... lots of Live & Learn!

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Re: Friday No No
Posted by: Robert A. Guist (---.dhcp.embarqhsd.net)
Date: April 26, 2013 12:11PM

Condolences.

An opportunity to learn something different(IE rod extending).

Tight Wraps.

Bob,

New Bern, NC.

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Re: Friday No No
Posted by: Steve Wright (---.hsd1.wa.comcast.net)
Date: April 26, 2013 12:17PM

Any chance you could order a bottom section? Might be worth a try.

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Re: Friday No No
Posted by: Terry Turner (---.hsd1.or.comcast.net)
Date: April 26, 2013 02:46PM

Batson's will surely replace the section for you, although it will probably cost you a little but less than a new blank. The repair in that area should be pretty straightforward though. Let us know how it goes.

Terry

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Re: Friday No No
Posted by: Phil Erickson (---.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net)
Date: April 26, 2013 06:48PM

30 sec is not long enough for the heat to get to the epoxy through either wood or cork! You may not have damaged the blank, just twisted a solidly adhered handle. I remove lots of reel seat and a few wood handles, and I find it takes at least 10min for the heat to soften the epoxy.

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Re: Friday No No
Posted by: John Ashburn (---.col.wideopenwest.com)
Date: April 28, 2013 10:29AM

NEVER twist when removing a reel seat or grip. Always use a straight pulling motion. It's more difficult, but won't result in a broken blank.

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Re: Friday No No
Posted by: bill boettcher (---.dyn.optonline.net)
Date: April 28, 2013 01:41PM

I just went to wrap some guides on a rod
Set up then went to pick up the cissors and found I have dripped some finish on them and the razzor blade under it Must have dripped off the brush when coating some handles

Just looked at it and shock my head A little heat and they came right off

Bill - willierods.com

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Re: Friday No No
Posted by: John E Powell (---.buffalo.res.rr.com)
Date: April 28, 2013 05:52PM

I doubt touching the blank to the pan did anything at all unless there was a flame running up the side of the pan. The water in the pan would moderate the temperature of the sides of the pan itself. Most likely, twisting and/or a combination of twisting and a hidden damage are the cause of the failure. The wooden handle probably concentrated the stresses you applied more so than a more compliant handle material would have.

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Re: Friday No No
Posted by: bill boettcher (---.dyn.optonline.net)
Date: April 28, 2013 06:00PM

Sounds like instead of trying to do some thing cheap
Cut it all off and replace it with new

They pay or go down the road

Who @#$%& up these charges for this REPAIR - Parts -- YOU ???

Buisness is buisness

Bill - willierods.com

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Re: Friday No No
Posted by: John E Powell (---.buffalo.res.rr.com)
Date: April 28, 2013 06:12PM

Bill,

I have no idea what that means.

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Re: Friday No No
Posted by: bill boettcher (---.dyn.optonline.net)
Date: April 29, 2013 04:25PM

Sounds like you tried to save the parts
maybe just cutting them off and replaceing them might have been thew better way ???

Bill - willierods.com

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Re: Friday No No
Posted by: Fred Yarmolowicz (---.hsd1.nj.comcast.net)
Date: April 29, 2013 05:28PM

Bill ,it was his own rod with a Mark Blabaum grip. I would save it to.

Freddwhy (Rapt-Ryte)

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Re: Friday No No
Posted by: Robert A. Guist (---.dhcp.embarqhsd.net)
Date: April 30, 2013 03:20AM

Hello Bill.

Fred X10

Bob,

New Bern, NC.

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Re: Friday No No
Posted by: bill boettcher (---.dyn.optonline.net)
Date: April 30, 2013 07:17AM

I did a boo boo on a friends rod and had to replace the blank Saved the seat and butt But I did it under the forgrip

Bill - willierods.com

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Re: Friday No No
Posted by: Robert A. Guist (---.dhcp.embarqhsd.net)
Date: April 30, 2013 01:25PM

Hello Bill.

Yes Bill that might work also.

Bob,

New Bern, NC.

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Re: Friday No No
Posted by: bill boettcher (---.dyn.optonline.net)
Date: May 01, 2013 12:12PM

I have eatten some when I had to

But maybe a new blank and a complete rebuild ??? heck it is a nice 3 wt

Bill - willierods.com

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Re: Friday No No
Posted by: Steve Cox (---.client.mchsi.com)
Date: May 02, 2013 03:44PM

Thanks for the replies guys. No doubt, the screw up was mine. I have removed many reel seats and a few handles for rebuilds that I give to kids and a children's summer camp south of Des Moines. 30 secs-60 secs has always been enough but sometimes I did have to do it a second time. I think I have learned 2 major things out of this 'cluster-debacle': Keep it in the boiling water for a considerable longer time and eliminate even a small twist. However, one of the great things about rods for yourself is the 'outside the box'/ 'creative' aspect. I am in the process of completing my re-build. Created an extension for the butt/handle area. Going to make an all cork/burl handle -reel seat. I'll post a few pics when I'm done. Sure won't be a Blabaum though. Mark, I may have to barter with you a little at the next tri-state!

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Re: Friday No No
Posted by: Mark Blabaum (199.230.124.---)
Date: May 02, 2013 08:25PM

Steve let me know and I'll try to work something out with you.

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