Hello to all, ok so i have been lurking in the shadows on this forum for some time now. I have spend alot of time researching rod building cause I tend to go over board with new hobbies plus i was not in a rush. I stumbled across a renzetti lath for $125 a few months ago and been practiseing guide wrapps and now im reaady to dive in. I have seen a tremendous amount of quality work from this forum and here i am. Thanks to all I have seen here, alot of posts and photos made me feel as if i can to this.

So I have an old rod some one gave me to redo. My first of im sure hundreds of questions i will be asking to you all, is if i wanted to paint the blank with some thing that will last a long time what should i use(bottom rod heavy action)? Im in no rush,so if the best way takes a week to cure great. I have read of people using polyurethane with a black pigment added, while others are using spray paint. So what should i do in order to get the best results, and what brands are the best for that job?

Thank you in advance for your input
and thank for the insripation. I look forward to ripping my f king hair out with a new hobby.lol

Tight lines

Hello Keith.

First you need to answer some questions.
What do you want in a rod?(light, sensitive, responsive, or are you just in for the bling, or maybe some of both?).
The lightest most sensitive would be a bare rod.
Next would be a simple coat of Perma Gloss or LumiSeal but if you want color those two can only be shaded and not colored so you would need to paint(what type of paint(Gloss flat?) auto, model, acrylic?).
Once painted, will it hold up on it's own or will it need some kind of covering?(PG over paint?).
I could go on for a while but the best thing you could do is take your thoughts and aim them at what you want to do either with THIS blank, or what blank you need to do some other task with, once you know what you want to accomplish with the blank you will have an idea of what to do or leastways you will know most of the questions you need to ask, everyone, and I mean everyone has questions at some time or another, the trick is figuring out what(subject) and how(phrasing) to ask the question.

Welcome and Good Luck.
Keep the questions coming but always think them through before asking them to get the Best answer you can, you may find your answering a lot of your own questions.

Tight Wraps.

Bob,

New Bern, NC.

Thanks Bob, I am going to take some time to figure out the right questuins. Off to work but will post them. thank you so much

I have painted only a half dozen or so blanks. My best results came from the paint which is used on car bumpers. I t flexes with out chipping. It does require an adhesion promoter and a clear coat on top so several coats will be applied. Krypton for plastics is good also but not my preference.

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Bill

Ohio Rod Builders

Canton, Ohio

Ok, so the more questions i think of, the more questions i think of. Funny huh. I am looking to build quality rods for myself, it would be nice to have bling, but, bling does not assist in the fight or landing of a fish.I am looking to have rods that give the best fight, so I guess it would be an un painted blank.
but shpuld a blank have a of Perma Gloss or LumiSeal and how much would it affect the action on a heavy bottom rod vs a light spinning or casting rod. Is the Perma gloss a must or a preference.

THanks gents.
tight lines

Bill Eshelman Wrote:
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> I have painted only a half dozen or so blanks. My
> best results came from the paint which is used on
> car bumpers. I t flexes with out chipping. It does
> require an adhesion promoter and a clear coat on
> top so several coats will be applied. Krypton for
> plastics is good also but not my preference.
>
> Do a search on top of this page. Be sure to
> check"All Dates" and hit "Search"
>
> Bill
THanks Bill, Is that bumper paint available at stores like PEP Boys. And would a coat of Permagloss affect that paint?
thanks in advance
tight lines

Keith, rule number 1. All blanks fish best as a cane pole and everything else you add only hurts them. Considering that we may want a reel and may need to cast requires some compromise. Point is to keep those compromising decisions to a minimum while still allowing the rod to perform its intended task.

You mention a "heavy bottom rod" yet no name/model. I have St. Croix blanks that some might call a heavy bottom rod. They are so light for their power that I feel it would be a crime to add any more weight than essential. On the other hand I have some older fiberglass bottom rods that weigh so much in their birthday suit that I could slather on a coat of epoxy and hardly notice it. So it "all depends".

I'd encourage you to start off on the right foot and go with a "less is more" approach. I would not look to paint a blank. It is one thing if a paying customer demands it but that doesn't seem the case. Now if your vanity demands the bling I'd go talk to my local auto paint place (with a case or two of beer in hand) and hope he is planning on shooting some color you could live with.

Russ in Hollywood, FL.

Russell Brunt Wrote:
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> Keith, rule number 1. All blanks fish best as a
> cane pole and everything else you add only hurts
> them. Considering that we may want a reel and may
> need to cast requires some compromise. Point is
> to keep those compromising decisions to a minimum
> while still allowing the rod to perform its
> intended task.
>
> You mention a "heavy bottom rod" yet no
> name/model. I have St. Croix blanks that some
> might call a heavy bottom rod. They are so light
> for their power that I feel it would be a crime to
> add any more weight than essential. On the other
> hand I have some older fiberglass bottom rods that
> weigh so much in their birthday suit that I could
> slather on a coat of epoxy and hardly notice it.
> So it "all depends".
>
> I'd encourage you to start off on the right foot
> and go with a "less is more" approach. I would
> not look to paint a blank. It is one thing if a
> paying customer demands it but that doesn't seem
> the case. Now if your vanity demands the bling
> I'd go talk to my local auto paint place (with a
> case or two of beer in hand) and hope he is
> planning on shooting some color you could live
> with.

Thank you so much for taking the time to respond. The rod im doing i call heavy bottom cause its an old rod with no name on it. But im going to go with the less is more approach, I see you are in Hollywood, fl.. im in Tamarac. Do you know of a store called Allfish emporium(was Big Als aquarium). I would like to meet local rod builders. Do you ever fish the piers? I would love to see pics of your shop, see how a real rod smith has it set up. Thanks again so much for the help.
regards, Keith M. David ( the fat man) tight lines and tight wraps