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Best glue for plastic trim pieces
Posted by: Mike Shaffer (---.client.mchsi.com)
Date: March 19, 2013 03:07PM

I am building a cork handle with an elliptical inlay. I was using thin plastic inserts for accenting the elliptical. Used 5 minute epoxy to put it together. Went to start turning the handle and epoxy did not hold on the plastic. What type of glue would work best for plastic to cork?
Thanks
Mike

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Re: Best glue for plastic trim pieces
Posted by: Col Chaseling (101.174.54.---)
Date: March 19, 2013 04:41PM

Hi Mike,
Whatever you use get a water break free surface on the plastic before you glue it. A rub on both sides with a marron scotch brite pad or some 400 grit paper will do the trick. That may have been your problem in the first place. I much prefer the 24 hr epoxy than the quick stuff.

ESFNEM Col
Port Kembla, NSW
Australia

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Re: Best glue for plastic trim pieces
Posted by: Mike Barkley (---.nap.wideopenwest.com)
Date: March 19, 2013 04:59PM

I do quite a bit of plastic to cork and I have found that if you drill or punch some holes in the face of the plastic, your glue will extend through the holes and bond cork to cork as well as the plastic to cork. How are you turning?? Mandrel? you can use inexpensive drill stops [www.harborfreight.com] on each end of the grip to put tension on it.

Mike (Southgate, MI)
If I don't want to, I don't have to and nobody can make me (except my wife) cuz I'm RETIRED!!

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Re: Best glue for plastic trim pieces
Posted by: bill boettcher (---.dyn.optonline.net)
Date: March 19, 2013 05:04PM

I had a coffee pot that hit the sink and had a crack in it so it leaked
put some RodBond on it and it lasted me several years until I hit the sink and busted the pot

Regular Rod Bond don't be in a hurry

Bill - willierods.com

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Re: Best glue for plastic trim pieces
Posted by: Mike Adams (---.dhcp.knwc.wa.charter.com)
Date: March 19, 2013 05:18PM

Good/great advise above. I scratch the surface with a pocket knife. Probably try Mike Barkley's idea next time.

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Re: Best glue for plastic trim pieces
Posted by: Mike Shaffer (---.client.mchsi.com)
Date: March 19, 2013 05:33PM

Thanks for the ideas, I did figure out (after the fact) that I should have roughed up the surfaces on the plastic. Drilling holes is a great idea.
Mike

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Re: Best glue for plastic trim pieces
Posted by: bill boettcher (---.dyn.optonline.net)
Date: March 19, 2013 05:42PM

i wash the surface - dry it then sand with 220 and then wipe it off with a -- DRY -- paper towel No solvent

Have not tried contact cement -- Yet

Bill - willierods.com



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Re: Best glue for plastic trim pieces
Posted by: Jerry Poindexter (---.tx.res.rr.com)
Date: March 19, 2013 09:53PM

I think it depends on what kind of plastic, but if it's the thin plastic spacer stuff from the knifemaking site, the Titebond polyurethane is the ONLY glue that I've found that works(thanks to Mark Blabaum). That's after trying rodbond, superglues w/ a plastics primer, etc. Still, I cleaned and prepped prior.

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Re: Best glue for plastic trim pieces
Posted by: roger wilson (---.hsd1.mn.comcast.net)
Date: March 19, 2013 09:54PM

Mike,
In addition to the posts above, there is also an excellent "epoxy plastic adhesive".
I have used it for some difficult plastic repair, and it has worked very well for me.

This is the Epoxy plastic glue that I have used:
[www.toolup.com]

As was stated on a famous TV show - "this glue is lke no other epoxy glue that you have ever used before!"

Thanks much
Roger



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Re: Best glue for plastic trim pieces
Posted by: Mike Barkley (---.nap.wideopenwest.com)
Date: March 19, 2013 10:28PM

There are some great adhesives for plastic to plastic. They "melt" the plastic together to bond them and work great with plastic but not necessarily with cork. All you can do is experiment

Mike (Southgate, MI)
If I don't want to, I don't have to and nobody can make me (except my wife) cuz I'm RETIRED!!

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Re: Best glue for plastic trim pieces
Posted by: Col Chaseling (101.174.54.---)
Date: March 19, 2013 11:57PM

The heart and soul of rodbuilding, EXPERIMENTATION!! Without it nothing new would happen and we'd still be in the "dark ages".
Nice one Mr Barkley.

ESFNEM Col
Port Kembla, NSW
Australia

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Re: Best glue for plastic trim pieces
Posted by: Jay Lancaster (---.hsd1.sc.comcast.net)
Date: March 20, 2013 08:04AM

Certain plastics need to be heated for paint to stick...I'd think epoxy adhesion would be similar. For heating you simply need to run a flame over the surface. Be judicious with a torch. Move the flame across the object w/o stopping and don't let it get so hot that it melts. A quick heat treatment will work wonders.

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Re: Best glue for plastic trim pieces
Posted by: Phil Ewanicki (---.res.bhn.net)
Date: March 20, 2013 01:36PM

Some adhesives fracture when subject to shear stress, especially those adhesives which become more brittle with age - as many do. If the handle of the rod in question is likely to endure stress from big fish or snags you should consider adhesives which retain some flexibility, such as Rodbond - which was engineered specifically for the application you describe. A roughened surface improves the performance every adhesive I know of.

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Re: Best glue for plastic trim pieces
Posted by: Mark Blabaum (199.230.124.---)
Date: March 20, 2013 08:13PM

I've found that Titebond Poly seems to hold better than epoxies for this kind of work. Titebond Poly [www.titebond.com] also works much better for me than the other urethane glues, one tip though with a porous material like cork when you think that you've got enough on the work piece add more. I've enclosed a couple of photos of cork and several different materials including aluminum, plastic, cork, and wood.

[www.rodbuilding.org]
[www.rodbuilding.org]
[www.rodbuilding.org]
[www.rodbuilding.org]



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Re: Best glue for plastic trim pieces
Posted by: bill boettcher (---.dyn.optonline.net)
Date: March 20, 2013 08:27PM

Very Nice Work Need I say More

Bill - willierods.com

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