I have a blank section, with a painted finish, that is the right diameter at the male ferrule to replace the second section up in a four piece Lamiglas rod. The rod where the replacement section is needed is unfinished.

As a general rule, how much thickness does a coat of finish add to a blank?

This is part of my long quest to resurrect my favorite fly rod, an XMG 905 travel rod after breaking the second up from the butt section last summer.

Thanks.

Craig

That depends on how thickly you apply the finish, although, most epoxies are fairly thick compared to other paint type coatings so you're apt to change the fit by adding epoxy to that area.

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I used the wrong term. Not finish as in thread finish but paint, as in the paint on the blank.

It will change the fit, albeit very, very slightly. But again, it really depends upon how much you apply. The less the better as far as the fit is concerned.

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I'm looking to strip a factory painted blank section and want to know how much smaller the male ferrule will be after I strip it with Citristrip.

Depends on how thick the paint is now. If you're lucky, all that will happen is that the female section will slide a little further down onto the male section, with no problems in the fit.

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Craig,
A lot of folks after stripping the blank, will just mask off the section of blank that is part of a male joint and not finish it. Then, there is no clearance issue involved with rebuilding the rod.

Roger

Roger, in this case, I would need to strip everything BUT the male joint which is definitely an option to keep the rod length and ensure the ferrule will fit as it does now.

I think I'll measure the diameter on a part of the section I have to cut off anyhow, strip it and compare it's pre-stripped diameter to it's post-stripped diameter. If it's more than three or four thousandths smaller, which I expect it will be, I will either keep the mismatched paint or strip all but the male ferrule. Depends on whether I think fishing with an ugly rod will affect my ability to cast it as well as I could before all this work.

Thanks for your input. I'll try to be more clear in future questions.

-Craig

I think you were clear Craig. Sometimes I wonder if others read clearly!

If you have a perfect fit then why risk anything? As you say, just leave the finish on the male end. Done right it shouldn't be visible once the rod is made up for fishing. Certainly no need to keep the finish on the entire section.

Really I doubt it would help if someone could say,"the finish is 3 mills thick". In the end I suspect it will be as Tom states and the section will just slide a tad more forward into the female section.

About all I can say of worth is lamiglas often uses a thicker finish than say a st.croix. For that reason I'd try and keep the finish on the male end. Once removed it is hard to put it back on and you can always remove it later if the looks don't cut it.

Russ in Hollywood, FL.

Put the sections together mark the male where it stops
measure the male end Wright it down
Strip the section When complete Check the fit again
If it goes down farther you can put one or two coats of Permagloss on the mail to take up the difference
let each coat dry several days before ya fit again to check Too soon and you will have a one piece

Works for me i have also painted blanks and lightly sanded the mail to get a better fit if the paint was to thick

If the rest of the rod has clear over it the clear may just be enough to get a good fit

Bill - willierods.com

I'm glad my predicament was clear to you, Russ.

I'm not about to criticize those who are pitching in to help, however. I have a habit of including far too much detail which can be even more confusing than too little. Working on paring down my written communications to just enough. All input is appreciated.

Bill, I am collecting permagloss projects before I open a bottle and get started. I'llf o don't have a satisfactory fit with a painted male ferrule before starting the other applications I have for the stuff I'll strip and build up the ferrule with thin, even coats. It'll be my first time using permagloss. On a male ferrule, should I plan to block sand it after it cures and/or before a second coat? Any other permagloss tips appreciated.

can not tell from your post
But is this rod a - tip over butt - feruled rod

Bill - willierods.com

Yes. Tip over butt.

Like I have said
Fit - measure - strip
If you don't like the fit after stripping it trim a 1/8" off the male

Bill - willierods.com