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split grip and rod sensitivity?
Posted by:
Tom Lusis
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Date: October 21, 2012 04:51PM
Hello,
I was talking to a friend who also builds rods and he claims that all things being equal, a split grip will be more sensitive than a traditional style because there is less material to absorb the vibrations transmitted by the fish biting, lure working etc. I can kind of see his point but does it make a noticeable difference? I have only built one rod with a split grip and cannot really comment. I was wondering what more experienced builders think. thanks, Tom. Re: split grip and rod sensitivity?
Posted by:
Joe Vanfossen
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Date: October 21, 2012 05:02PM
Yes, there is a difference. The split grip alone isn't going to make a huge difference alone, rather building a more sensitive rod is done by taking every opportunity to think about what you are doing to the rod. When you combine the split grip with no fore grip (where applicable), trimmed reel seats, use of the smallest lightest guides to get the job done, and attention to detail in assembly technique, you can walk away with a rod that is 20% or more lighter, and much more efficient.
Joe Re: split grip and rod sensitivity?
Posted by:
Tom Lusis
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Date: October 21, 2012 05:07PM
Thanks Joe. You mention trimmed reel seats. Can you elaborate a bit on what you mean? Are you cutting down the length of the reel seat to the minimum? What does this accomplish?
Tom. Re: split grip and rod sensitivity?
Posted by:
Tom Kirkman
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Date: October 21, 2012 05:10PM
If it results in a lighter rod, then the rod will be more sensitive.
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Posted by:
Joe Vanfossen
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Date: October 21, 2012 05:22PM
Tom,
I generally trim my reel seats when used on a build without a fore grip, so there are no exposed threads (or very little). It reduces the weight of the reel seat by ~0.1oz or ~10% of the reel seat's weight. It isn't much, but when you add that to the 0.3-0.5oz. you save from the split grip and dropping the fore grip, it starts to add up. The removed threads also make it easier for people who palm their reels to have a place to put a finger directly on the blank in front of the seat. I also find the threadless look aesthetically appealing as well. You can also slit the reel seat and remove a chunk from the middle to reduce the weight further for casting reel seats. Personally, I don't find the split seats comfortable, and choose not to split them for my personal rods. Joe Re: split grip and rod sensitivity?
Posted by:
roger wilson
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Date: October 21, 2012 07:28PM
Tom,
I think that a particular blank is going to have a certain feel to it. Some folks will like to fish that blank with a full grip, and some folks will like to fish that blank with a split grip. Does it make any difference in catching fish? Likely not. I think that the most important thing is that a person is happy with a rod, however it is built. If a person is confident in his rod, I suspect that confidence will translate to more fish in the boat. Take care Roger Re: split grip and rod sensitivity?
Posted by:
jack taller
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Date: October 22, 2012 01:40AM
you can buy split reel seat or you can make your own here is the tutorial [www.georgescustomrods.com] Re: split grip and rod sensitivity?
Posted by:
Michael Danek
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Date: October 22, 2012 11:45AM
I agree with Joe. One area that many don't consider, but can add significantly to rod weight, is burl cork. It can be almost double the weight of natural, unmixed, cork, according to some measurements I recently made. Re: split grip and rod sensitivity?
Posted by:
Phil Ewanicki
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Date: October 27, 2012 07:58PM
A chain is no stronger than its weakest link. The link between the rod and the fish is the line, which is the weakest link in transmitting the sense of touch - AKA "sensitivity." Other than trollers, who don't worry much about rod sensitivity, sport anglers nearly always have slack in their lines, slack between the tip-top and the fly/lure/bait, and slack in the guide train itself. Slack eliminates the sense of touch.
"Not so," you say? Put some fishing line with 6" of slack in it on the water. Blindfold yourself, hold the line as tightly as you can, and have an assistant pull 4" of slack out of the line. Tell him when he starts and stops pulling. You could repeat this test with whatever blanks you please, and determine the answer for yourself. Sorry, only registered users may post in this forum.
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