Just a question, I Have some old 811 and I love it. I tied the flexcoat and it dries darker then the 811. Anyone no some other cp's that keep the thread close like the 811. Not a solvent based if possible.

I have tried every CP that I can think of. Like many others I lamented the demise of the old Gudebrod 811. Currently I am using Chroma Seal and Cason's solvent based CP. I like them both. Thy both have a minimum darkening effect. The advantage of the Cason's solvent is the elimination of having to stir the CP before using. Having to use the old Airplane glue when I first started building rods makes me very thankful for all of these modern CP products.

Mike Blomme

Thank you, I have always wanted to try solvent based, but worried the feet are going to crack

Switch to Chromaseal, it is the best cp ever made! fantastic colour retention on the lightest and darkest threads.

Jersey, Channel Islands. (U.K.)

The use of CP will not cause the finish to crack. All finishes will crack at the guide feet over time. This is due to the guide feet flexing at a different rate than the rod blank.

Bruce
Boise, ID

Gabriel,

Gudebrod 811 CP is still available. You can find this though Merrick or Jann's among other suplly houses.

Brad

Thanks a heck of a lot Thought it was gone ?? Got to get a Few bottles It is the same stuff Is it ??

I did not even think that they came back with thread -- Maybe they came back with all the other products

Bill - willierods.com



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Willie,

It is the same stuff. I worked for Gudebrod for 26 years as production manager (up until they closed the doors). There is an off shoot company of Gudebrod producing the threads now. This is to the same standards as Gudebrod had in the past.

Brad

Thanks
Ordered 6

Bill - willierods.com

Brad, Is this the 811 that is the colorless type or is it the type they were selling at the end which was milky like Flex coat or U-40 Color Lock? Thanks for your help.

Mike Blomme

Hey Mike,

The bottles that I had grabbed on my way out was the Milky kind. The colorless was discontinued at least 3 years, if not more, before the closure of Gudebrod.

Brad

I had went back to flex-coat and that milky look - just thin it a tad

Bill - willierods.com

I've still got a 1 ounce bottle of the original gudebrod 811 (clear formular) must be over 10 years old! i remember it performed well on all threads except for black where it would leave sparkly crystals, maybe that was because of the way i thinned it with alchohol, adding too much or too little, or did others experience that too when using it?

Jersey, Channel Islands. (U.K.)

As fare as I know black does not play well with CP changes color
I would think to remedy this using NCP thread and Metallic with black would give better results Then just finish

Bill - willierods.com

Trondak color lock is the best there is, bar none!!

Everyones got their favourite. I'll go with Steve Mcleod and endorse chromaseal. Perfect colour retention especially on madeira thread, even the black.

ESFNEM Col
Port Kembla, NSW
Australia

Hi brad thank you, I ordered the new stuff from bingham. It's milky and watery, the stuff I have is like a clear gel. I felt the new stuff didn't perform as well