I didn't want to hijack my own thread, but I had a second question: How do micros work with pitching? My reading past posts seems to make it seem like it would be ideal, as better line control would allow for a further more accurate pitch, no? But what I didn't see is how the drag is affected by using micros over traditional guides.

In pitching, I use the spool to control the pitch but more importatntly the drag on the guides. That is, if you need to shorten or slightly direct your targeting you lift up on the rod, increasing guide friction.

Anyone doing this notice any change pro or con?

Thanks!

Craig

Craig,

I think you will like pitching with micros. I feel that they enhance line control just a bit, and are a great option on a pitching rod. Definitely, give them a fair shake to see how they work for you.

Joe

Are you using leaders or straight braid?

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Pitching with micro's works fine. If you pitch with anything over 15lb mono/flouro/copoly I would recommend running a size 6 tip regardless of the size micro running guides you use. If you are running straight braid you could get away with say a size 4 tip. Personally I build all pitch/flip rods with a size 6 ring tip and usually size 3 running guides.

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what is the advantage or reasoning behind such a large tip top with the small runners?

As the line changes direction when it leaves the tip top with heavy mono, it will arch up and hit both sides of the smaller ring causing a pinch point. On spiral wraps, the line may even push above the blank. The larger diameter tip top ring allows the line to exit more smoothly.

Joe

Craig and Zachary
Scott and Joe are spot on in their advice and observations.

You will find that 3mm's will out pitch 3.5mm's here are some links to test done and another post on the subject.

I suggest starting with a larger stripper 6 or 8mm (10mm if you will ever use it for flipping and have large fingers)
and ending with the larger 6mm tip.

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Thanks All!

I'm looking at 40# Power Pro Hollow Ace braid spliced into say a five foot fluoroleader without a know. I know guide weight becomes more importand as you reach the end of the tip, if I do a larger guide at the tip shoud I tie in a sz 6 recoil guide a a tip or does the thread about equal the weight of a tip tube?

Thanks Again,

Craig

Craig,

I would go with a braced tip top with a ceramic insert on a pitching rod. The added support will come in handy when handling and transporting rods, particularly in a tourney boat where you may need to work quickly and may be a little rougher on your equipment. A ceramic insert on the tip top is a good choice because it is the first ring that will come in contact with debris from the water and the line makes a chance in direction across the surface. Choosing a metal ring may lead increased chances for grooving in the future. Granted Recoil and Minima guides have a good following, I just prefer a ceramic for tip tops.

Joe