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Posted by:
hal byrd
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Date: February 29, 2012 08:05PM
I did a search and it had alot of good info. but getting ready to start rod #3 and been told you need to find the spine and told that with todays blanks there is no need to locate the spine. What do most rod builders do? What a great hobby to have. Re: spine
Posted by:
Tom Kirkman
(Moderator)
Date: February 29, 2012 08:55PM
There is no need to find the spine on any blank, but it won't hurt anything if you do. It does not affect rod twist nor casting accuracy, and actually results in a slight reduction in lifting power ( [www.rodbuilding.org] ) so it's not necessary. But again, it won't hurt anything if you do.
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Posted by:
Phil Erickson
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Date: February 29, 2012 08:56PM
It is still a controversial subject! Many still build on the spine, while probably just as many others build on the straight axis. Just saw a presentation of St Croix's Wisconsin plant, and they build on the straight axis. That is also the way I do it. I only build fly rods. Re: spine
Posted by:
Tom Kirkman
(Moderator)
Date: February 29, 2012 09:04PM
There are still two theories on the geometry of the world. One side says it's round, the other says it's flat. Are both valid?
It may be controversial, but the evidence, data and tests are all in on the side that says spine does not matter. The other side only has theories with not a single bit of evidence nor data to support those theories. Not trying to be contrary, but with a complete and utter lack of any actual facts behind it, the idea that building on or that orienting the spine in any particular position is important is like sticking to the idea that the world is flat. But again, other than a slight reduction in lifting power, building on the spine won't hurt a thing. ................ Re: spine
Posted by:
hal byrd
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Date: February 29, 2012 09:23PM
Thanks Tom great read. Re: spine
Posted by:
Bruce Tomaselli
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Date: March 01, 2012 09:15AM
Phil Erickson Wrote:
------------------------------------------------------- > It is still a controversial subject! Many still > build on the spine, while probably just as many > others build on the straight axis. Just saw a > presentation of St Croix's Wisconsin plant, and > they build on the straight axis. That is also the > way I do it. I only build fly rods. What do you mean by the straight axis and how is that determined? Is it the symmetrical appearance of all of the blank piece when put together? Sort of like they are all on the same path. I hope that's not too confusing. Bruce Re: spine
Posted by:
Tom Kirkman
(Moderator)
Date: March 01, 2012 09:29AM
All blanks will have a slight curve or warp. If you turn the blank so that any such curve or warp is up and down, instead of side to side, you have what is considered the straightest axis.
Generally, in order to allow the weight of the guides to help bring the blank back into straight, you would position this curve so that in the fishing position the butt and tip are high and the belly is low. Make sense? ............ Re: spine
Posted by:
John DeMartini
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Date: March 01, 2012 02:48PM
I guess it all depends on who the King is. At one time if you did not build along the spine you were a heretic. I build on the straight axis and have not been hit by lightning yet. Do what you feel comfortable with. Re: spine
Posted by:
Tom Kirkman
(Moderator)
Date: March 01, 2012 04:03PM
The trouble is, the spine proponents never did, and still haven't, provided any tests nor data to explain why it would be important to build on the spine.
Another thing to remember is, none of us can fish or cast on a single axis. ................. Re: spine
Posted by:
Jerry D Powers
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Date: March 02, 2012 10:12PM
this is some good stuff I believe I may have just learned something. I have read bitts and peices on the spine topic but didnt really understand , now I think I do , in the past I wrapped on the spine but I will try the straight axis . Sorry, only registered users may post in this forum.
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