building a rod to fish 80# on a 7 day trip out of san diego. Heavy duty cermic guides, is it necessary to triple wrap, rod is rated 40-100#.
thank you for help
Jim

Its not necessary, you would be surprised by how strong those threads actually are. I dont see why it would hurt considering the rod is going to be heavy to begin with. Its up to you. But I think that its not 100% necessary.

You are good to go with a Single wrap of D, Double is fine for insurance, but triple isn't going to do anything extra for you.

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If you like the insurence, an underwrap of "A", with either a single or double overwrap of "C" or "D" is not a bad way to go.
The ones we have done the customers wanted the extra insurence.

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The point of making a double overwrap with D, is not so much for guide to blank strength, but to provide additional abrasion and rough handling resistance in instances where the rod is expected to see prolonged, heavy duty use. On 50lb to 80lb rods expected to be used hard and often, I'd make a double overwrap with D thread.

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I would do especially if it is a rail rod.

Freddwhy (Rapt-Ryte)

I agree with Fred! If you are going to be Banging the Rail on on one of those long distance trips won't hurt

If abrasion is the problem why not lay several lengths of #2 stainless trolling wire parallel to the rod's axis and secure both ends beneath the guide wraps? When the epoxy over the wraps and wire wears down the wire would provide much more abrasion resistance than another layer of thread.

What I have recommended to do is when you start to abrade the top layer have it removed and replaced. Its a bit of an insurance policy if you have a huge fish on that refuses to come to the boat and the angler starts to use the rail for assistance. Happens on the head boats here all the time.

Freddwhy (Rapt-Ryte)

My favorite method on such a rod is A thread underwrap, coated and allowed to set no more than 24 hours. Place guides, wrap with A (or whatever), coat and allow to dry for at least 48 hours. Wrap again with D and coat again.

I don't think it is any stronger. I just find the top layer of D is easier to remove and re-wrap later on. If you wrap everything, and coat at the same time, it is a complete re-wrap. Maybe not so bad if you are getting paid but I'm not, as it is my rod.

Russ in Hollywood, FL.