Thanks alot guys for the info on making a old rod look new .The other question I have is about THREAD being new at this it can be confuseing. I find Standed tread mat\etallic thread braid thread sulky thread and metallic twist thread also you have A and D size I know that one is smaller then the other . All the rods I will be making will be bait cast rods for bass fishing Thanks again

You can't beat Madeira thread for butt wraps. It packs really easy and lays nice when crossing. It is also really cheap. I buy online for 2.63 for 1100 yards. I haven't yet attempted it for guide wraps, but some use it. I normally use NCP A thread for guide wraps. No CP needed and the finish makes its way to the blank. I have some Sulky thread, but it seems week. It tends to break on me while packing.

For bass rods I would use nothing larger than "A" or Maderia

Jack, while Madeira has many colors, it is not designed for rod building and special care should be given as it is treated with silicone to aid in high speed embroidery processes. FishHawk Threads (link to the left) is one of the few manufacturers to produce thread dedicated to rod building. FishHawk offers nylon thread twisted exclusively for rod building. Their metallic and silk threads are the very best in the world.
I believe you will find the "A" sized nylon and metallic threads are ideal for bass rods.

I can't say enough about FishHawk!!! I was speaking with an individual who has MANY years in this industry and when he said " it is the best out there" I immediately proceeded to buy some.. He was NOT wrong, that stuff is great. I will be replacing my entire stock in Feb at the show this year!! If you have a specific color let me know and if I have some extra I will get it off to ya.

Tom

Thank alot guys for the info on thread I'll try it

Fishhawk rocks!

As a beginner I would stay away from the Madeira, Too much of a learning curve with the finish end and it stretches a little more. I agree the Fishhawk is a good place to start.

Freddwhy (Rapt-Ryte)

Just wanted to mention that repairing a rod, especially an older one, and considering being a new builder, consider Sz "B" or "C" thread.
There is some limited availability of both from either National or Gudebrod.
The sz "B" is a littler thicker than the "A", and may be easier for you to wrap, but not as bulky as the sz "D".
And sz "C" is a nice compromise on bigger rods, instead of the "D".
Here is a link, with Gudebrod stock availability getting better day by day.
[www.schneidersrods.com]
As far as FishHawk, we are awaiting our first shipment and are excited to be a new distributor for them.
I have tried both the regular and metallic threads and they are excellant.
I believe the metallics are the best I've ever seen.

Best wishes,
Ron Schneider
Schneider's Rod Shop
Mountain Home, Arkansas
[www.schneidersrods.com]
mtnron40@yahoo.com
870-424-3381

While I haven't tried Fishhwak threads, I've been pretty pleased with Pro Wrap from Mudhole. It's available in a wide array of colors, coupled with their twist, new thread and their metallics they're pretty much my only thread anymore.
I'd caution against Maderia if you're new to wrapping as you can have a beautiful wrap but then ruin it with a bad finish job. If you go that route, a couple of coats of CP will help alleviate some of the issues with it.

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