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Removing bubbles
Posted by:
Bruce Tomaselli
(---.altnpa.east.verizon.net)
Date: September 07, 2011 08:07PM
I developed some bubbles in my finish. I used a brush and tried not to brush the finish on, but only sort of pour it and spread it over the wrap. Anyway, I tried sanding bubbles off one time on another build and it just made things worse. The bubbles were gone, but the residue stuck to the finish. I could use some guidance.
Thanks, Bruce Re: Removing bubbles
Posted by:
Tom Kirkman
(Moderator)
Date: September 07, 2011 08:08PM
Has the finish already set?
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Posted by:
roger wilson
(---.hsd1.mn.comcast.net)
Date: September 07, 2011 08:37PM
Bruce,
If the buildup is bad enough, you may have to strip off the finish, wraps and guides and start over. It depends on the situation. From the sound of your post, is sounds like you sanded before the finish was set and you now have a "goo" covered rod? Roger Re: Removing bubbles
Posted by:
bill boettcher
(---.dyn.optonline.net)
Date: September 07, 2011 10:27PM
A light finish releases them better then a high build or heavy finish
What finish are you using How did you apply it I always load it on then let the blank stop and get rid of any drips Cooler area works better then a hot area - The finish stays wet longer for the bubbles to release Did you use a CP on the thread Bill - willierods.com Re: Removing bubbles
Posted by:
Michael Joyce
(---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: September 07, 2011 10:32PM
Next time you pour a clear bubble free finish onto a wrap, be sure to babysit the wrap for up to 2 hours as the finish sets any air trapped within all thread wraps with try to make a last gasp run to the surface before it gets encapsulated in a tomb....If "I " was a molecule of air that had a thin vicuous material poured on me, I'd go for the surface ASAP,...... if I was a stubborn pocket of air, I'd start scrambling for life as the viscuos material was getting warmer and thicker, and in strangulation mode, and I'd be a big azz bubble that might burst into a foaming froath of madness.....Picture the air pocket and what IT would do...then as a rodbuilder use the tools given by others to defend your problem....CO2, torch, bubble buster, bic, dont care..."I'm MJ the air bubble", try to seal me in!!!!!....but I might not give up til my outward force is overcome by your inward force. Watch me before you trap me...Im an air bubble.
MJ NERB that types with a bar of Ivory soap in his mouth. Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 09/07/2011 10:40PM by Michael Joyce. Re: Removing bubbles
Posted by:
Jay Lancaster
(---.sip.chs.bellsouth.net)
Date: September 08, 2011 08:10AM
Michael.......put the bottle down you're embarrassing yourself.
LOL Re: Removing bubbles
Posted by:
Robert Hummel
(---.res.bhn.net)
Date: September 08, 2011 09:52AM
Depending how many bubbles I usuallu try to "cut" them off with a razor blade after the finish as set up. If I have a lot of bubbles I cut them out and then sand with 200-600 grit, clean very carefully and recoat with finish. If I get a lot of bubbles I try to figure out why before I refinish. My experience is that the less I mess with it, the better off I am when it comes to putting on finish. Re: Removing bubbles
Posted by:
bill boettcher
(---.dyn.optonline.net)
Date: September 08, 2011 10:04AM
You may have to re-wrap
The next time try thinning the first coat of finish as it will soak into the thread and release bubbles a lot better then another coat after that sets with a regular coat Bill - willierods.com Re: Removing bubbles
Posted by:
Bruce Tomaselli
(---.altnpa.east.verizon.net)
Date: September 08, 2011 06:29PM
Thanks again for all of your help. When today rolled around it wasn't as bad as I thought. I used a razor blade, removed several bubbles and put a thin coat of finish to it. It appears to be just fine now. Not a masterpiece, but not a disaster either. I used TM Lite. I think I may have made the bubbles by picking up my brush and putting it back down instead of using one, straight drag across the wrap. It seems every build brings a new lesson to me. I was so frustrated last night I nearly made a vow to quit building rods. Something keeps pulling me back, though. Re: Removing bubbles
Posted by:
Robert Gilbertson
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Date: September 08, 2011 06:30PM
As your rod is turning watch for bubbles to form. Most bubbles can be removed using heat. I have seen a cigarette lighter used, a heat gun or any other heat producing instrument. The important thing to remember is not to get real close with an open flame as you can burn the finish. I prefer to use a drinking straw to gently blow warm air directly on the bubble causing it to break and leave a very smooth bubble free finish. If you wait too long after the finish is applied it will be set up and will not work, so you need to do this within about the first thirty minutes after the finish is applied. Re: Removing bubbles
Posted by:
roger wilson
(---.hsd1.mn.comcast.net)
Date: September 08, 2011 09:11PM
Robert,
I completely agree that "gentle" heat will remove most bubbles if they have not become encapsulated into a semi hardened finish. I dislike the use of an open flame due to the possible overheating effect. Rather a heat gun works better for me with less damage of overheating. Roger Re: Removing bubbles
Posted by:
Bruce Tomaselli
(---.altnpa.east.verizon.net)
Date: September 08, 2011 10:21PM
Would holding the finish too close to an open flame cause bubbles? Re: Removing bubbles
Posted by:
bill boettcher
(---.dyn.optonline.net)
Date: September 09, 2011 10:48AM
i far as I am concerned - yes if you get it too hot any air in the finish will expand
Blowing though a straw or a hair dryer with light heat Some finishes don't like any heat at all and will fill with micro bubbles Bill - willierods.com Sorry, only registered users may post in this forum.
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