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excess rod bond?
Posted by:
lorenzo tellez
(---.hsd1.il.comcast.net)
Date: May 29, 2011 07:58PM
I guess i will put another topic on here, here it goes. Whenever I glue on the reel seat and the grips, there is always a mess of rod bond to clean up. Now I have tried to wipe it off with alcohol, and sometimes with just water using paper towles, but it is always a mess! especially where I don't wnat the rod bond, like on the rod itself where it is not needed, maybe I am applying to much, is there a way so that there is less a mess. Thank you. Re: excess rod bond?
Posted by:
Tom Kirkman
(Moderator)
Date: May 29, 2011 08:20PM
As the parts are brought into place, stop short and wipe off any excess before you seat them fully. That will keep you from getting RodBond on the outside of the rod where it could be troublesome to remove.
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Posted by:
lorenzo tellez
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Date: May 29, 2011 09:07PM
very good advice, i would of never thought of that, Thanks! will try next rod build. Have a good one. Re: excess rod bond?
Posted by:
Phil Erickson
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Date: May 29, 2011 10:09PM
Water wont work on epoxy! Alcohol will if you get it before it cures.. Follow tom's advice and you should have very little "mess". Re: excess rod bond?
Posted by:
billy broderick
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Date: May 30, 2011 04:50AM
Good advice also get a tight fit of the parts when reaming. That will make the amount of rod bond you need minimal. Another good idea is to mask off the parts at the ends. Re: excess rod bond?
Posted by:
Bob Caulkins
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Date: May 30, 2011 10:08AM
Taking off the excess, and the use of masking tape really will really reduce the mess, and about the only other thing I would suggest is I like to use a toothpick to clean joints and seams of excess. Then after the bond has started to set up I will remove the tape, and use a dental pick to remove anything I may have missed the first time. Re: excess rod bond?
Posted by:
. Douglas Webb
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Date: May 30, 2011 11:09AM
Something I have done for many years and have never had a problem with any parts separating is: I dip a toothbrush in alcohol and while holding the components tightly I work the joints over with the toothbrush and alcohol. It cleans the joints very well. I then wipe the handle assembly down with a rag with a little alcohol on it. Re: excess rod bond?
Posted by:
roger wilson
(---.hsd1.mn.comcast.net)
Date: May 30, 2011 11:35AM
Lorenzo,
Go all of your gluing in a well ventilated area. i.e. venting to the exterior, with a source of fresh air being brought into your gluing area. When you look at diluent or solvents for epoxy finish - there are two chemicals that stand out. 1. Xylene 2. Acetone. Both of these highly toxic chemicals if fumes are breathed- are very good solvents or diluent for epoxy finish. Denatured alcohol is way down the list of doing any clean up with epoxy. If epoxy has not set up at all, alcohol will wipe it away. But if the finish has set at all, the alcohol just tends to smear it around and not remove it. ------------------ The post above are very good, and if you can follow them will help to ease your problems. However, when I glue up a blank, and or arbor I want to be sure that I have epoxy on 100% of the interior of the arbor and or handle. As a result I tend to put a coating of epoxy well up the rod, Then, as I slide the arbor and or handle down the rod, with its smaller diameter, I can get the interior of the arbor and or handle well coated with epoxy. As a result, I tend to have a significant amount of epoxy on the blank, above the handle and reel seat. I just dip a paper towel in Xylene - in a well vented area that has fans going to the out of doors, and for long term use, wear a respirator to avoid chemical ingestion. The Xylene quickly wipes off any excess epoxy. I also keep a few old tooth brushes in my brush holder to also dip in Xylene to clean up the residue from the sides of the reel seat area, or any grooves and or ridges in the handle reel seat, or front of the handle area. Then, I do a final clean up with denatured alcohol, to wipe away residual Xylene that might have been left on the rod. ------------ p.s. Some folks have posted comments about a material like Xylene affecting the finish of the rod blank. My belief is that cured rod blank finish should be able to take the effects of xylene being wiped down the rod. So, I always make a point, before starting a build to wipe down the blank from one end to the other with Xylene to completely clean the blank. If finish comes off with the Xylene, it comes off. I would rather have it come off the blank, BEFORE I start to do any work on it, than to get a rod finished, and delivered to a customer and then have it returned because the finish comes off of the blank when the customer is cleaning it or using it. I believe that if the finish holds up to Xylene, it will hold up to any of the soaps and cleaners that might eventually be used on the rod to clean it in its life. ---------------- Again, if you are using any chemicals that are hazardous if the fumes are ingested, or hurtful if the chemicals are absorbed through your skin, take appropriate precautions. Xylene is the right product to use for the job you are trying to do, but it should NEVER be used, if you are not using it in the right way or with the right skin and breathing precautions. Always, always, be safe and enjoy. Roger Re: excess rod bond?
Posted by:
Mike Barkley
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Date: May 31, 2011 12:11AM
Like Douglas, I use a toothbrush dipped in denatured alcohol Mike (Southgate, MI) If I don't want to, I don't have to and nobody can make me (except my wife) cuz I'm RETIRED!! Re: excess rod bond?
Posted by:
Russell Brunt
(---.mercymiami.org)
Date: May 31, 2011 02:08PM
Strong solvents like those mentioned when used to clean up expoy are the biggest contributor to developing allergic reactions. Russ in Hollywood, FL. Re: excess rod bond?
Posted by:
roger wilson
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Date: May 31, 2011 08:42PM
Russ,
I totally agree, and that is why I suggest using the appropriate safety measures. i.e. gloves, respirator super ventilation. Take care Roger Re: excess rod bond?
Posted by:
bill boettcher
(---.dyn.optonline.net)
Date: June 01, 2011 11:28AM
paper towels and alcohol
and less the regular epoxy rod bond you don't need a lot and gives time to clean and adjust sets overnight Bill - willierods.com Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 06/01/2011 11:30AM by bill boettcher. Sorry, only registered users may post in this forum.
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