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Not what I meant - Tiger flub
Posted by: Adam Curtis (74.7.62.---)
Date: May 19, 2011 05:33PM

Tried to get creative. Well, for a newbie, and make a tiger wrap with sulky shimmer wrap underneath flouro and black thread. Went with 15# flouro and black thread over the sulky, then ran my top layer of black and 2 sacraficials over it. Looks cool, like grassy green, but doesnt have much tiger effect at all.

Where did I go wrong?

Also, has anyone done any trials with 4 thread underwraps and 4 thread overwraps leaving 2 of the top threads in different colors? I wrapped an underwrap with 4 threads, white, pearl metallic, granite metallic and teal. Awesome underwrap and real cool pearl effect, but after wrapping the overwrap it just looked like hazy lines. No tiger.

too much for my own good or just need to tweak something?


Thanks in advance.

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Re: Not what I meant - Tiger flub
Posted by: Scott Armstrong (---.sw.res.rr.com)
Date: May 19, 2011 05:50PM

Isn't the shimmer thread really a thin flat ribbon? I don't think you could burnish it to get the effect you need. You need two "round threads wrapped side by side for it to work.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 05/19/2011 05:51PM by Scott Armstrong.

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Re: Not what I meant - Tiger flub
Posted by: Adam Curtis (74.7.62.---)
Date: May 19, 2011 05:59PM

Yeah, it's flat. I was using it as a basewrap underneath the flouro and black. Are you saying I should have run another color side by side the flouro and black? That would make sense since the flouro vanishes under finish. I wanted the sulky to show through underneath the flouro and have the black create a tiger pattern over it. Sounds like I need another thread.

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Re: Not what I meant - Tiger flub
Posted by: Michael Sledden (---.dsl.emhril.sbcglobal.net)
Date: May 19, 2011 06:04PM

What makes the tiger pattern is the bottom threads that you burnish around to make them more or less wavy. It isn't the top layer of thread that does that. The top layer, once you remove one of the threads gives a space for the bottom threads to show through.

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Re: Not what I meant - Tiger flub
Posted by: bill boettcher (---.dyn.optonline.net)
Date: May 19, 2011 06:13PM

Try using white NCP thread instead of the black It should bring the color out and help it to pop

Bill - willierods.com

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Re: Not what I meant - Tiger flub
Posted by: Adam Curtis (74.7.62.---)
Date: May 19, 2011 06:17PM

Bill, underwrap or overwrap?

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Re: Not what I meant - Tiger flub
Posted by: Jeremy Wagner (---.dhcp.embarqhsd.net)
Date: May 19, 2011 07:32PM

Adam,

Have you read the article in the library on Tiger wraps? It will answer all of your questions. If you follow the directions, you will get the results you're after.

jeremy

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Re: Not what I meant - Tiger flub
Posted by: Adam Curtis (74.7.62.---)
Date: May 19, 2011 07:47PM

Jeremy,

Didnt know there was a library. Just saw the button. Thank you, I will read up.

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Re: Not what I meant - Tiger flub
Posted by: Raymond Adams (66.180.127.---)
Date: May 19, 2011 11:35PM

What you have done is mix two different wrap techniques. Tiger wraps don't use mono.

Raymond Adams
Eventually, all things merge, and a river runs through it..

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Re: Not what I meant - Tiger flub
Posted by: Jeremy Wagner (---.sta.embarqhsd.net)
Date: May 20, 2011 09:56AM

Adam,

When I started building, I took a few days just to read the library and the glossary...lots of info!!!

Post some pic's when you're done.

jeremy

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Re: Not what I meant - Tiger flub
Posted by: Joe Vanfossen (---.neo.res.rr.com)
Date: May 20, 2011 07:17PM

Adam,

I think I get what you are going for. It sounds like you want black and the holo shimmer color for your tiger. Give this a try:

1. The holo shimmer is a bit wide to use side by side with a regular thread, so go ahead and do a straight holo shimmer under wrap.
2. Wrap (with a little less tension than normal) black and a sacrificial thread over top of the holo.
3. Burnish the black and sacrificial to give some wave.
4. Remove the sacrificial thread.
5. Put 2 or 3 good coats of finish over the wrap.
6. Now wrap the top thread and sacrificial threads, being sure to keep them as straight as possible.
7. Remove the sacrificial threads and finish.

This should give the effect that you are looking for, but really making it pop requires that you have a good amount of contrast between the colors you are working with. Even if this isn't what you are going for, it should make for an interesting experiment.

Joe

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Re: Not what I meant - Tiger flub
Posted by: Adam Curtis (---.hsd1.ca.comcast.net)
Date: May 21, 2011 10:04PM

Joe,

Pretty much what I did except I used flouro line next to the black on item 2.

Just makes black lines with holo behind. Cool, but not effect I was looking for.

Maybe needed to add another color next to the black/flouro part?

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