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CP dry time before adding epoxy?
Posted by: Jody Pierce (---.int.bellsouth.net)
Date: May 07, 2011 04:24PM

I'm using American Tackle CP on some guide wraps. The bottle says the dry time is one hour and I have never had a problem waiting an hour between CP applications. However, I usually let it dry overnight before applying epoxy. Is this necessary? If I wait a couple hours after the last coat of CP will it be safe to apply epoxy?

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Re: CP dry time before adding epoxy?
Posted by: David Dosser (---.columbus.res.rr.com)
Date: May 07, 2011 05:29PM

I think you will get different answers on this one. I wait overnight, but I have done it after about 3 hours with no problems.

David Dosser
Coshocton, OH

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Re: CP dry time before adding epoxy?
Posted by: Bob Mankin (---.nextweb.net)
Date: May 07, 2011 05:31PM

Temp and humidity should probably get the most consideration in dry time estimates. I like overnight too, but in a tight schedule have done a few hours wait.

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Re: CP dry time before adding epoxy?
Posted by: Jody Pierce (---.int.bellsouth.net)
Date: May 07, 2011 05:34PM

If it helps, I'm in an air conditioned house. approx. 70 degrees and 35% humidity. Also, the wraps are mostly black with a couple slim metallic trim bands. Nothing overly colorful or detailed.



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Re: CP dry time before adding epoxy?
Posted by: David Dosser (---.columbus.res.rr.com)
Date: May 07, 2011 05:39PM

In that case, I wouldn't even hesitate to apply epoxy after 2 hours of CP dry time. What kind of CP is it? Water based I assume?

David Dosser
Coshocton, OH

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Re: CP dry time before adding epoxy?
Posted by: Jody Pierce (---.int.bellsouth.net)
Date: May 07, 2011 05:46PM

acrylic.

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Re: CP dry time before adding epoxy?
Posted by: David Dosser (---.columbus.res.rr.com)
Date: May 07, 2011 05:49PM

I use Cason's Crystal Clear most of the time. It should be fine.

David Dosser
Coshocton, OH

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Re: CP dry time before adding epoxy?
Posted by: Jody Pierce (---.int.bellsouth.net)
Date: May 07, 2011 05:51PM

Thanks for the help. I'll give it a few hours and see how it turns out. I'm building it for myself so that lessens the risk a bit.



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Re: CP dry time before adding epoxy?
Posted by: lorenzo tellez (---.hsd1.il.comcast.net)
Date: May 07, 2011 06:31PM

I had a couple of guides with cp dry overnight cause something came up, and today i went back and applied the rest of the guides with cp and waited like 2 hours, after 2 hours they looked the same as the ones that dried over night. Just thought i would put that in the topic, have a good one!

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Re: CP dry time before adding epoxy?
Posted by: Jody Pierce (---.int.bellsouth.net)
Date: May 07, 2011 08:10PM

Epoxy applied. So far so good.

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Re: CP dry time before adding epoxy?
Posted by: Raymond Adams (66.180.127.---)
Date: May 08, 2011 01:30AM

I've gotten away with only a couple hours drying time using our CP products but when using Cason Crystal Clear we recommend over night drying time between CP coats and before applying finish.

The majority of issues folks have had with our CP products were the result of NOT allowing enough setting time!

Raymond Adams
Eventually, all things merge, and a river runs through it..

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Re: CP dry time before adding epoxy?
Posted by: . Douglas Webb (---.sub-75-220-46.myvzw.com)
Date: May 08, 2011 09:04AM

I might as well throw in something. I use one of my wife's old hair driers on low heat if I'm under the gun to get a rod done. After a couple of hours drying time I then use the dryer on the wraps. warms them up and drys them well. I've done this for a lot of years with not problem.

Doug Webb

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Re: CP dry time before adding epoxy?
Posted by: Jody Pierce (---.int.bellsouth.net)
Date: May 08, 2011 09:27AM

In this case, using American Tackle acrylic CP, 2 1/2 hours dry time, climate controlled environment and VERY thin applications of CP it came out perfectly well. No problems at all.

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Re: CP dry time before adding epoxy?
Posted by: David Dosser (---.columbus.res.rr.com)
Date: May 08, 2011 03:32PM

I should have added that I use the Cason's Crystal Clear water based CP, not the other.

David Dosser
Coshocton, OH

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Re: CP dry time before adding epoxy?
Posted by: David Aiello (---.bstnma.fios.verizon.net)
Date: May 08, 2011 10:43PM

I am in a room with AC humidity is around 35 - 40 % and I wait about 2 hrs and every time I have no problem. Just did a 6'-6" all purple rod for mother's day her a client. I left it on for about 2 hrs and epoxied. looked great.

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Re: CP dry time before adding epoxy?
Posted by: bill boettcher (---.dyn.optonline.net)
Date: May 09, 2011 07:03AM

Just make sure you give it enough time and don't rush it

It would be a shame to have to redo it I have used several CP's and went back to Flex Coat.
Cason's water based does not put any time on the bottle
Flex Coat reads 1 hour depending on temperature

Bill - willierods.com



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Re: CP dry time before adding epoxy?
Posted by: Jeff Seabridge (---.cmdnnj.fios.verizon.net)
Date: May 12, 2011 04:40PM

Paint like anything else can look dry even to the touch but its not. I think the same for CP. Just my thought. I'll let it dry overnight for my peace of mind. I have tried the one coat wait 3 hours and another and yes it looks dry. But I have had streaking or some areas soaking in more than others when the epoxy went on so I'm an overnight guy now. I'm not saying it does not work but for me I'll play it safe.

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Re: CP dry time before adding epoxy?
Posted by: Gary Snyder (12.77.249.---)
Date: May 13, 2011 02:15PM

I have always waited one hour with Flex Coat, never had any problem.

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Re: CP dry time before adding epoxy?
Posted by: Tony Scott (---.bal.clearwire-wmx.net)
Date: September 21, 2011 06:09PM

Raymond -

You are defining "overnight" as "after dinner" and "after breakfast the next morning", right?

Thanks,

Tony

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Re: CP dry time before adding epoxy?
Posted by: Raymond Adams (---.hsd1.ca.comcast.net)
Date: September 21, 2011 06:21PM

Yes but 8-12hrs would be a better instruction.

Raymond Adams
Eventually, all things merge, and a river runs through it..

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