I have been reading about CCS Deflection and had a question in terms of baseline numbers. More specifically, can any of the figures such as the Action Angle be matched up to a rod action or are they all relative measurements?

For example could a blank with an AA rating of 70 be considered a medium fast action or is the figure rather a relative measurement. In this case the blank is faster than a blank with a AA rating of 65 and slower than one with an AA rating of 75?

thanks,
Tom.

In a nutshell, your second choice, relative, is the correct answer. Nothing is fast or slow...only faster, slower or equal.

Thanks,
Chad Huderle

Huderle Custom Rods
Prior Lake, MN

Thanks, that makes sense.

So I guess technically you could set your own "baseline" definition for a blank actions by doing the measurements on an existing blank and using it as a guide for comparison for future projects? That way the relative relationship is grounded in that you have a frame of reference for comparison for any CCS data (albeit one which is very individual in nature).

Please chip in if this logic is off. I'm just trying to figure out a way to utilize the CCS data. Some blanks don't have their actions listed but i think, if i am on the correct track, the data could be used to give you a really good idea what to expect if you can establish a baseline for the numbers using a blank/rod you already have.

Thanks,
Tom.

What is the better way to describe the length of a rod - in feet and inches, or by "long, medium or short?"

Terms are subjective, numbers are not. That's the point of the CCS.

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Yes, i see what you mean. Without a standardized definition of rod actions then the CCS numbers are the best way to describe the characteristics of a rod blank.

I was hoping there were some benchmarks out there to compare CCS data against but i can now understand how difficult they would be to establish.

thanks,
Tom.

There is a standardized definition of rod actions - they have to do with where a rod initially flexes.

Fast - initially flexes in upper 1/3rd.

Medium - initially flexes in upper 1/2.

Slow - initially flexes along entire length.

As you can see, there is some amount of subjective opinion or observation involved and the resolution is quite poor.

Comparing this system to the CCS is like comparing "hot, mild or cold" to a thermometer. A relative system of measurement is always better.

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As far as I understand it a - Bare - blank will measure higher then one with guides thread finish on. Extra weight
So ( correct me if I am wrong ) if you measure a rod - with guides and finish and a bare blank it is not apples to apples Take the guides of the rod you like then measure. This way when you do a bare blank and the numbers are the same they should be equal when built with The Same Guides

Bill - willierods.com

The ERN will be slightly lower on a finished rod than on a bare blank. AA will be the same.

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