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Durability of current EVA products
Posted by:
Michael Danek
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Date: March 06, 2011 10:19AM
Way back in my earlier days I built my mother a casting rod with an EVA grip. In about 10 years it "went away," meaning the material deteriorated to the point it just sort of came off in chunks. I expect it was due to ozone, but have no real way of knowing. I know it was not due to light as the rod was seldom used and was stored in a dark garage.
Question: Is current EVA more stable than the old stuff that was used on the rod described? If there are different qualities, how do you shop for the best? thanks Re: Durability of current EVA products
Posted by:
Michael Danek
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Date: March 07, 2011 06:14PM
A really underwhelming response on this one. I have to conclude that no one has any data? Re: Durability of current EVA products
Posted by:
Vic Cutter
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Date: March 09, 2011 03:40PM
I know of no way that a custom rod builder can determine the long term durability of EVA or similar materials. Reputable vendors test their EVA in environmental chambers to determine how exposure to heat, UV, Salt water will affect the material.
There have been so many manufacturers of EVA grip material in the last 30 years and EVA is made in so many different Durometers (softer/harder), that is is difficult to make any generalized statement about durability. In my personal experience, high quality EVA material will last for more than 30 years providing it is not exposed to ambient temperature above 115°F. In other words, don't store rods in your car trunk, next to your heater or water heater and don't put them under your car hood. I've seen all of these rod storage methods create problems with EVA. One of the telling signs of temperature exposure is a change in O.D. (Temps over 130°F can cause the EVA grip to shrink to an O.D. just slightly larger than the blank. Ozone and or UV exposure can also lead to durability problems. I am a firm believer that today's EVA material supplied by the established components distributors is more durable than the EVA of 20 years ago. There is still the possibility that EVA grips of lesser quality/durability are for sale. Always consider the investment you make in all the parts and labor of building the rod and don't scrimp on the grip material. Buy from a company whose reputation you trust. If you purchase sight unseen over the internet you may have an unpleasant experience awaiting you down the road. I have several EVA gripped rods that I built more than 30 years ago and they are still in great shape. You will find that with frequent use EVA of higher durometer (firmer) will tend to get smoother in surface texture especially in areas where your grip changes frequently. This "Polish" can be removed by turning on a rod lathe and very lightly abrading the EVA surface with "Dragon skin" or Drywall sanding abrasive sheet. You don't want to remove much material from the surface to avoid changes in O.D. or shape. Vic Cutter Re: Durability of current EVA products
Posted by:
Michael Danek
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Date: March 10, 2011 10:29AM
Thanks, Vic, appreciate your comments. My purchases come from major, trusted, companies, so expect I'm getting the good stuff. I don't like EVA grips for the uses I have, no salt except inshore stuff that's just like my normal freshwater gear, but am making a fly rod and like the looks of the EVA for the fighting butt, which is what prompted me to ask. Sorry, only registered users may post in this forum.
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