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fly rod guides
Posted by: wayne vaughn (---.triad.res.rr.com)
Date: January 06, 2011 11:09AM

I am want to start building custom fly and surf rods. I have sarted with a fly rod. My first question is: I ordered some single foot ceramic guides and tip top but I don't like the looks of the tip top. Can I use a standard tip top without causing too much problems? Secondly, can I use a spead bit to bore out the handle for the reel seat hood? My thanks to anyone who can respond! Wayne

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Re: fly rod guides
Posted by: bill boettcher (---.dyn.optonline.net)
Date: January 06, 2011 11:13AM

How long and what weight fly rod And if you have any scrap blanks you can make your own reamers for reaming the handle.

Bill - willierods.com

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Re: fly rod guides
Posted by: Ken Preston (---.bltmmd.fios.verizon.net)
Date: January 06, 2011 11:49AM

Yes, you can use any tip top that you would like

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Re: fly rod guides
Posted by: john timberlake (---.triad.res.rr.com)
Date: January 06, 2011 02:55PM

yes and yes

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Re: fly rod guides
Posted by: bill boettcher (---.dyn.optonline.net)
Date: January 06, 2011 03:03PM

I was just thinking if it is a 6 wt or lower I would use wire guides

Bill - willierods.com

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Re: fly rod guides
Posted by: roger wilson (---.hsd1.mn.comcast.net)
Date: January 06, 2011 03:50PM

I agree with Bill on this one.
I would use wire guides all of the way, including the tip.
There is really not much reason to use a ceramic or other high end guide on a fly rod. You will also appreciate the much much lighter weight of the wire guides compared to any type ringed guide.

Roger

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Re: fly rod guides
Posted by: Herb Ladenheim (---.mia.bellsouth.net)
Date: January 06, 2011 06:20PM

Any tip-top??? As in boat rod tip-top??? Definitely NO!! I like the REC Recoil tip-tops but they are not good looking - but they are the lightest and do make a difference in performance. The other options are chromed tip-tops made for fly rods.

Ceramics on any fly rod - except the stripper - will rob the blank of performance. i.e. it will feel "soggy"
Herb

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Re: fly rod guides
Posted by: Phil Erickson (---.dsl.sfldmi.sbcglobal.net)
Date: January 06, 2011 09:03PM

If you mean a "spade bit" they can be pretty touchy when cutting cork and can catch and gouge easily. If you have them, a Forstner bit works better and cleaner.

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Re: fly rod guides
Posted by: Herb Ladenheim (---.mia.bellsouth.net)
Date: January 07, 2011 08:00AM

I use a conventional hole saw that I have tweaked to cut the exact size hole riquired. I then use progressively smaller diameter saws to ream-out the inside portions.

If you send your email I will send pics and results.
Herb

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Re: fly rod guides
Posted by: wayne vaughn (---.triad.res.rr.com)
Date: January 07, 2011 09:55AM

Phil,
Thanks, that was good advise on the bit. I found one at Lowe's.

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Re: fly rod guides
Posted by: wayne vaughn (---.triad.res.rr.com)
Date: January 07, 2011 10:05AM

Herb,
Thanks for your advise. What are your thoughts on single foot wire and snake guides?

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Re: fly rod guides
Posted by: dave schaub (---.scansafe.net)
Date: January 07, 2011 11:34AM

I have gotten so spoiled by REC guides, I dont use anything else on rods down to
2wt. I really dont like the way snakes look. Since I am pretty rough on equipment,
the RECs are just what I need and they are good for casting.

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Re: fly rod guides
Posted by: Herb Ladenheim (---.mia.bellsouth.net)
Date: January 07, 2011 10:57PM

Wayne,
Like Dave, I only use REC recoils. Mostly single foot. I just installed recoil snakes on an 11wt that I overline with a #12 line and I was pleasantly surprised. I am tempted to use the snakes on rods that can handle the extra weight of the second wrap.
But they will always be REC recoils. I use Fuji Ti SiC for the stripper.

I have seen too many chromed guides corrode on hi end factory rods - even on hi end custom - rods to ever use them.
Regards,
Herb

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