Is there an issue with going from TLNSG's to TLSG;s on a casting rod? Are the TLSG's REALLLY too short to use? I've been digging and it seems that people haven't had a problem with them.

Is this an acceptable transition..... TLNSG 10 - - TLSG 8 - - TLSG 7 ???


Thanks.
Greg R.

Drop the 8 and go right to the 7 - the line doesn't care and your line path will be straighter.

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Greg -
If this is related to the earlier post (assume it is) - then (my opinion) the answer is dependent on the rod blank (flex); number and placement of the guides in association with total weight of the rod / intended use for the rod which definitely is associated with your question on transition - maybe yes / maybe no = depends on the guide placement / spacing (distance from reel / distance between the TLNSG and the TLSG). Why "distance from the reel to the first guide" - depends on how much the blank flexes AFTER the first guide (the rod taper between the double foot TLNSG and the second guide TLSG). IF most of the taper / flex takes place after the second guide then the 10 to 8 SHOULD work. I don't have that blank available nor do I have those specific Fuji guides - perhaps someone else here can replicate using exact parts.

The rod is a Lamiglas XMG50 962LL it's the 4-8lb, 9'6"

The rod is being built into a casting rod.
The guides are as follows...... TLNSG 12, TLNSG 10, TLSG 8, TLSG 7, TLSG 7, TLSG 6........+ tip.

The concern is the transition from the 10 to 8, and the use of TLSG vs. TSG - which I'm pretty sure there's no problem with the T L SG usage. Just confirming.

Thanks to all - - I've had my hands full making this one work, and I'm still working on a solution with the builder, so any/all info is REALLY helpful since I'm going to call him up tomorrow and hash out the details one last time.

THANKS AGAIN!!
Greg R

There is no issue with migrating from TLNSGs to TLSGs ... spacing is key. You won't need more than 3 sizes to get from start to finish on a casting rod. Since that is such a long and light blank, the smallest viable running guide should be used. IF you can do TLSG5 or TLSG4, you should do so. The less weight you have on the upper 1/3, the better off you will be.

Although I like the idea of smaller running guides, I do worry a little about freezing/ice in the guides. It seems that the smaller 4's and 5's would have an easier time getting frozen solid with water given their smaller diameter. Also, I might have a knot passing through the guides some times, depending on what I'm running. I would think the 4's might be a little small for that. uni-to-uni connection etc. I hadn't done enough investigation to know for sure. I wanted to play it safe.

I just hope to have the rod finished soon....if you read my other thread, then you know the situation....it's in the process of finding a resolution.

Greg,

Drop the 8's and 7's and move right to the 6's. The line doesn't use the whole ring and doesn't care about any such "transition." That's something for the human eye, not the line.

You don't need all those sizes and using fewer sizes provides a straighter line path and less weight.

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Greg,
If you are concerned about ice, and I am when making "outdoor" ice fishing rods, I seldom use guides smaller than size 8.

Again, the roeason for the larger size is the ice buildup. It is not a matter of if, but when the ice will build up on the guides when fishing in subfreezing temperatures on the ice. As a result, you need to have guides that are large enough to allow some ice build up and still allow fishing. Then, they need to be tough enough so that the rod can be tapped on the ice and have the ice fall out of the guides.

If, however, the ice rod is always going to be used in a heated shanty, then the guides can be much smaller.

Roger

It's not an ice rod, and it's not going to see too many days that are cold enough to freeze. However, with that said, it will see a few, and the water squeegeed off the line, resting on the guides, will freeze up. I've had it happen on my 1141 a bunch of times. 6's were still ok and easily taken care of. I would be a little hesitant to run smaller given all the factors. It's just a preference for this particular rod.