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Those FUJI guides - same or different?
Posted by:
Danny Condruti
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Date: September 25, 2010 08:53PM
I am looking to get the FUJI guides TLNSG (Ti + Sic) and have a question about them:
- Are the TLNSG guides the same as CLNAG/BLNAG guides? Only talking about the frame hight, size, shape, thickness? A better question would be, do they use the same die press tool to cut TLNSG from Ti sheet one day, and the next day use SS sheet to cut the CLNAG guides? Very hard to tell from the ad pictures on the web, they look the same. If you have them, please compare them and let me know. Thank you. Please keep the internet green! Recycle electrons. Re: Those FUJI guides - same or different?
Posted by:
Billy Vivona
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Date: September 25, 2010 09:07PM
[visualweave.com] - Read that Re: Those FUJI guides - same or different?
Posted by:
Danny Condruti
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Date: September 25, 2010 09:18PM
Thanks Billi. That was helpfull. Please keep the internet green! Recycle electrons. Re: Those FUJI guides - same or different?
Posted by:
Billy Vivona
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Date: September 25, 2010 10:44PM
I assume it answerred your qustion, and taguth you abotu how Fuji names their guides? I hope. Re: Those FUJI guides - same or different?
Posted by:
Danny Condruti
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Date: September 26, 2010 12:27AM
Yes, thank you. Have bookmarked your page. Please keep the internet green! Recycle electrons. Re: Those FUJI guides - same or different?
Posted by:
mike harris
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Date: September 27, 2010 11:04AM
To the original question I doubt that they use the same tooling to make stainless guides and Ti guides. First although we think of Fuji as a large company, in the global commodities market they are tiny so they have to source sheet metal in the sizes available, and the readily available sheet thicknesses between SS and Ti are slightly different. The other reason is that SS and Ti behave quite different in the dies so the designer has to make adjustments to the tooling to get the final desired part. These are the main reasons why on at least some frame sizes we see little or no weight difference between SS and Ti guides, even a few thousandths of an inch of material thickness can make a huge difference in total volume of material and negate the weight advantage Ti has. Re: Those FUJI guides - same or different?
Posted by:
Billy Vivona
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Date: September 27, 2010 11:29AM
TLNSG vs BLNAG there is a 66% diffrence in weight between similar sized guides (8,10, 16), and a 71% differnce with the size 12. According to the chart I put together. Re: Those FUJI guides - same or different?
Posted by:
Danny Condruti
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Date: September 27, 2010 01:17PM
I was hoping that the TLNSG guides are a bit thicker, more material in the fram compared to CLNAG fromes. I have used the CLNAG guides and seemed very thin, wire like. Please keep the internet green! Recycle electrons. Re: Those FUJI guides - same or different?
Posted by:
Billy Vivona
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Date: September 27, 2010 01:57PM
Oh, the answer there is no. they are not thicker. Re: Those FUJI guides - same or different?
Posted by:
Danny Condruti
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Date: September 27, 2010 02:05PM
Bummer...Thank you guys. Please keep the internet green! Recycle electrons. Sorry, only registered users may post in this forum.
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