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5 min epoxy question
Posted by:
bruce la torre
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Date: September 13, 2010 06:14AM
Hi everybody, I have a small issue . It seems that I neglected to order five min epoxy for my first build. I purchased some (Loctite professional 5 min),
but in closer inspection it states not for prolonged contact with water. I can't find any water proof epoxy local. Should I use this for cork grips? Gluing up rings and also attaching to the rod. What about (gorilla glue) I have tons of it. Thank you for any responses Bruce Re: 5 min epoxy question
Posted by:
Fred Yarmolowicz
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Date: September 13, 2010 06:40AM
I `m not so sure that a fishing rod is considered to be in prolonged contact with water(unless it went overboard). Freddwhy (Rapt-Ryte) Re: 5 min epoxy question
Posted by:
Tom Kirkman
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Date: September 13, 2010 07:14AM
It would certainly work just fine, but the 5-minute variety doesn't give you any room for error. For gluing up cork rings and handle assemblies. you're much better off with a slower curing epoxy.
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Posted by:
Jim Gamble
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Date: September 13, 2010 09:00AM
Don't you have U40 Rod Bond?? That would definitely be my choice for gluing grips to the blank. IF you are gluing your rings directly and then turning, use RB the whole way. IF you are gluing your rings to a mandrel for turning first, use Titebond 2 or 3. Available at almost any hardware store, THEN use the RB for gluing to the blank. Re: 5 min epoxy question
Posted by:
bill boettcher
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Date: September 13, 2010 11:11AM
The Rod Bond will work very well on the rings and to the blank. Not much at all is needed just a thin coat. Bill - willierods.com Re: 5 min epoxy question
Posted by:
Phil Erickson
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Date: September 13, 2010 12:10PM
The Loctite will work fine ( I have used it in a pinch), but as Tom points out, it makes one hurry the process. Re: 5 min epoxy question
Posted by:
roger wilson
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Date: September 13, 2010 12:37PM
Bruce,
Lots of folks use various brands of 5 minute epoxy who need the fast setting times of the 5 minute variety. For those folks they typically glue up each part of the handle separately. If they are gluing up a long handle, they will often do it in two stages to allow them to get it together without having the glue setup. The epoxy will hold up very well for fishing rod use. As one of the other folks pointed out, a fishing rod is not submerged. Even if a fishing rod is submerged, the epoxy glue is not normally exposed to the moistuer. i.e. the glue is on the inside of the handle, and reel seat. Not on the outside. If you need a fast setting glue, use the 5 minute variety. If you want a slower setting glue, go with one of the glues that take longer to setup. Take care Roger Re: 5 min epoxy question
Posted by:
roger wilson
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Date: September 13, 2010 12:39PM
Bruce,
Virtually all of my rod repair - i.e. splicing, fixing etc. is done with 5 minute epoxy in the interest of saving time. I have never had a failure as a result of glue failure on any of the rods. Take care Roger Re: 5 min epoxy question
Posted by:
justin keithley
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Date: September 13, 2010 12:54PM
for cork rings try gorilla glue wood glue or titebond II or titebond III which are waterproof wood glues (any hardware store will have it). I don't like epoxy on cork rings cuz sometimes its too thick and can be a pain to sand off if you don't have much material to work with. i've used regular elmers wood glue on rods that have seen 4-5 seasons of consistent use with no issues as well. I use titebond II on cork duck decoys that sit submerged in water for hours on end and it will probably outlast the materials its gluing together.
regular gorilla glue will work, but it expands and gets everywhere (usually). i wouldn't worry much about the gluing grips to the blank with regular 5 min epoxy. Regards, -Justin Re: 5 min epoxy question Thank You
Posted by:
bruce la torre
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Date: September 13, 2010 07:22PM
Thanks to everyone for their replies .
I now know what direction to go. The reason for five minute is mainly to the blank. I purchased a premade cork but i am cutting and adding some decorative rings and rubberized end caps. If you haven't guessed its a Tennessee with sliding rings, for a float rod on a Batson XST1383F blank. Ive done a lot of research on this site and others and everybody is great. Hopefully I can get through without anymore snags .If I do I know where to go. Thanks again everyone, Bruce P.S.I'll post some pics when I'm done Re: 5 min epoxy question Thank You
Posted by:
Peter G. Douma
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Date: September 13, 2010 07:24PM
I should be fine, I always use devcon, but that is what i first used and have stuck with it. Peter Douma Poseidon Custom Rods N.E.R.B.s Re: 5 min epoxy question
Posted by:
Jim Gamble
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Date: September 13, 2010 09:08PM
Aside from Gorilla Glue being messy, the sanding dust isn't very friendly. I would definitely use something else. Re: 5 min epoxy question
Posted by:
Joe Willsen
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Date: September 14, 2010 09:21AM
I have used Gorilla Glue for a lot of things....the thing I don't like is that it expands when it cures....I have had some problems because of this. I would worry that if it got between the cork rings it may cause some separation. Just my .02 Re: 5 min epoxy question
Posted by:
Bob Balcombe
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Date: September 15, 2010 10:49PM
Gorilla Glue and most carpentry glues needs air to cure, Where epoxy glues uses a eternal chemical reaction to cure. Single rings I guess would be ok but bonding the grip to a blank I would believe asking for trouble. Years ago 25 plus I built a rod and used a carpenters glue to glue the grips on to the blank. 5 years later I decided to make a custom grip for the rod, Guess what when I cut the grip off, I still had tack glue and where it did dry was flaky and picked right off. The only reason it did not fail was because I had an ex-trimly tight fit to the blank. These were pre-made grips Good Wraps Bob Sorry, only registered users may post in this forum.
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