From my understanding Rod Bond may not be the best choice to glue up Syncork rings. I have been told that the best way is to glue them with 5 min epoxy to the blank and then shape them which is not an option in my case. If anyone has used this stuff, what have you done.

curious myself I have been considering using them for some time...

If I were you I would give Trondak a call. What was the reasoning not to use Rod Bond. The darn stuff holds air planes (Jets) together.

Good Wraps Bob

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I got a heads up from Billy that Syncork when glued up into a stick can break apart at the bond. I contacted the place about this issue and this is the response I got...
Hello,

Scuffing the sides will help a little bit but if the rings are glued onto a blank, we haven’t seen this issue. I will say that trying to just glue the rings together to make a cork stick without having a blank involved, the Syncork doesn’t seem to hold together as well as cork does. We use 5 minute epoxy to glue Syncork

Bob, that was my thought too.

I have always lightly scuffed my blanks where any grip goes. It just makes common sense , I also wash my blanks before building. I can not see a break away situation. I have taken RB and glued 2 pieces of smooth glass together, they sure wont break apart,

Good Wraps Bob

Bob, I am a firm beleiver of RB myself. I also scuff the blank too. It was my idea to maybe scuff the Syncork sides for bonding purpose.

Jim Even when I do cork, I take a 3 sided file and score the inside. Maybe over kill, but I feel safe

Good Wraps Bob

I couldn't get them to stay glud togther. I glued them up wth both 5 minute & Rod Bond and both times I was able to pull the rings apart after I was done sanding. I don't know if it was the ridges onthe Syncork which prevnted it from being glued up properly, or the coating on th face of the rings. I think it's the coating. ROd Bond will NOT glue everything together, next time you mix up a batch take some of the excess and wipe it on a plastic bag or on a piece of waxed paper. When it dries you can peel it right off.

Jim based on their response - the reason they hold together I bet is becasue they are glued directly to the blank,a dn they are held togehter from the INSIDE glue where each ring is bonded to the blank. My grip was fine on the mandrel, but when I popped it off that is when I noticed the rings could come apart. IT wasn't like they just seperated, I had to give a little pull, but I was able to get them all apart. I suspect the coating on the face of the ring is similar to the paper bag or waxed paper which prevents Rod Bond or any glue from gluing te rings togehter.

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Bill - willierods.com

Billy Just a thought or 2, Did you clean your rings with alcohol or Acetone before gluing, There could have been a foreign substance that impeded the bond. Next did you use the slow cure RB and last were the rings under any kind of compression on the Mandel? This what I do not understand, in theory these types of bonding agents are the same. So why is a 5 minute better than a 10 minute or slow cure like RB. Remember I said in THEORY? Billy what did you use on the mandrel so you could remove the Syncork?

Good Wraps Bob

Syncork doesn'twork when glued ona mandrel, plain and simple. I just got an e-mail form somoene else whoknows mor about types of matrial than I do scientifically. AllI know is epoxies donot stickto Syncork regardless f what you do.YOu can clean plastic bags all you want. ROdBOnd and5 minute epoxy isn't sticking to it.

Sound correct to me. How about contact cement for a temporary bond?

Good Wraps Bob

This stuff might work as it is advertised as "plastic to plastic" . If I had some symcork I'd try it & let everyone know....... or maybe I'll go buy a couple bottles of wine and call it a required experiment LOL

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Hey Ken soak the Syncork in the wine till it is comply saturated, then remove the excess by @#$%& it off. If the wine doesn't help it stick by the time all the excess is sucked away who will careLOL

Good Wraps Bob

'Zactly! I will consider that I will have sacrificed myself for the good of the community. A noble cause. Bolstering the local economy and saving a few pieces of natural cork for rod builders to use for the greater good of mankind.

Roger please explain your great results you had with Syncork since you said it works perfectly fine. Other people who may have actually tried it have had completely opposite results.

Lance I think if you glue up the rings to the blank they will probably hold up. BUt I know from using it on a mandrel and seeing how easily they popped apart I would never trust this material to hold up to fishing. I know the company puts them on their factory rods, and I guess they don't have any issues that I've read about, but I also don't look. TH direct e-mail I recieves makes me skeptical for any grips glued up with regular rod building epocy because the material these rings are made of doesnt' allow them to adhere so I wouldn't trust building a rod with these rings.

I can not find a manufacture? I see where it is used in some wine tops but the jury is out on how well it works keeping air our. Now the question is what happens to it when you use the screw thing to remove the plug. I am not a wine conisure. This a question a manufacture should be-able to answer. if it is a synthetic there has to be a method used to attach it to other products

Good Wraps Bob

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