I have read that this CP is similar to the 911 CP But was wondering if any one knows witch one is more like it

Thanks

Bill - willierods.com

I have used both and they are not even close to the same IMO..

What is 911? Geez, what difference is if it it's close if you don't knwo what the old stuff was? lol.

Thats why I asked - I have an old bottle of the 911 and love it Bummer

Bill - willierods.com

Billy

The Guderrod 911 CP The one that was highly liked . But was also not - consistent - in how it was from bottle to bottle .

What are you using ?

Bill - willierods.com

I believe that was 811 and there were at least two versions of that.

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Are you sure ? OK maybe i was wrong 811 - 911 The Guderod CP stuff .maybe I was thinking of NY LOL

Yes 811 - my bad Does that make a difference ??

Bill - willierods.com



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it was 811, and having tested Cason's CP I like it better than 811. I also didn't care for the "gel" texture of 811 and I especially didn't like it when the 811 formula was apparently changed.

OK I was wrong - but witch formula did you like. Like i said i have some of the 811 and would like to - cause I have herd - like the 811 Which is closer

Bill - willierods.com

Two versions of Casons preserver is on the market. A water based and a solvent based. Buy a bottle of each and test for yourself. Simple as that.

I was trying to be - cheap - and only buy one

Give me a break LOL

Bill - willierods.com

Bill, if it helps I tried it yesterday and can offer this much. My inital reaction was it reminded me of clear nail polish:)

It has a smell and heavier than water nature like nail polish. Small guide wraps near the end of the rod are back to normal color in around 5 minutes so you know if you have a problem ASAP. Smaller guides came out perfect. The two largest probably needed a third coat or my packing isn't what I thought. Scarlet thread over a dark grey blank is a little tough and we are taking a sliver of darkness beside the guide foot where the thread doesn't contact the blank. Might be good to mask around wraps if you value neatness as it is hard to wipe off the blank afterwards.

I thought it handled great and was very nice overall. No milky, cloudy, or little flakes problems. You knew right away if there was going to be a problem with color or tension. You could recoat in an hour or two as it dries nice and quick.

I'd say splurge and buy a bottle. I'd like to hear your impressions.

Russ in Hollywood, FL.

I tested both formulas on a brown thread over a gold underwrap. I was not impressed by either . At the same time I teated the Chromaseal and that had the best color retention . Just my opinion from the tests I did on a build. Will no doubt try it again.

Freddwhy (Rapt-Ryte)

ha heck I'll buy one of each
Thanks guys

Bill - willierods.com



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Fred Yarmolowicz Wrote:
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> I tested both formulas on a brown thread over a
> gold underwrap. I was not impressed by either . At
> the same time I teated the Chromaseal and that had
> the best color retention . Just my opinion from
> the tests I did on a build. Will no doubt try it
> again.
Yep, me too, except the trying it again part, Chromaseal for me

The reason Cason's Crystal Clear came to being was Gudebrod's changing of their 811S color preserver which I and others thought was the best CP
available at the time. The original solvent based product testing was done along side some of the 811S that folks still had before comparing to other Mfgr's.

If you liked the old version of Gudebrod's 811 CP I'm sure you will be even happier with the solvent based Cason's Crystal Clear CP

Raymond Adams
Eventually, all things merge, and a river runs through it..

Thanks Ray

maybe I will pick up some of that Chromaseal Also ?? just hate to buy several and test them again

I remember that Bill wanted to make his CP similar to the 811.

Bill - willierods.com



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