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Light colored threads and bleed-through
Posted by:
Clinton Terry
(---.mia.bellsouth.net)
Date: July 30, 2010 02:49PM
On light colored threads, when used over a black rod blank or over a darker underwrap, generally some of the underlying color comes through the lighter color thread, this affecting its color. Also, when used over a black line guide foot, the foot is generally visible, even if only ever so slightly. Is there a solid solution to this, such as using heavier thread rather than A thread? Thanks for any and all comments.
Clinton Re: Light colored threads and bleed-through
Posted by:
bill boettcher
(---.dyn.optonline.net)
Date: July 30, 2010 02:55PM
regular nylon thread will show any thing under it unless you put at lest two good coats of color preserver on first.
Are you using regular nylon ?? Even with NCP which is No Color Preserver required should have a good coat over it. What type of thread are you using ???? Bill - willierods.com Re: Light colored threads and bleed-through
Posted by:
Clinton Terry
(---.mia.bellsouth.net)
Date: July 30, 2010 03:53PM
What I am fussing about at the moment is PacBay Rose color A thread (True Color [NCP]). I'll give the CP a try...should work. I'm assuming this is nylon. Re: Light colored threads and bleed-through
Posted by:
bill boettcher
(---.dyn.optonline.net)
Date: July 30, 2010 04:01PM
You should not get any see though with an NCP thread. It is said to hold it's color.
But I always put CP on it even if told I do not need it . Butt since I use CP i always use Regular Nylon. The colors come out looking a lot nicer. NCP thread to me looks - Flat - Stuff happens ??? Bill - willierods.com Re: Light colored threads and bleed-through
Posted by:
Tom Kirkman
(Moderator)
Date: July 30, 2010 04:21PM
Two things will help - larger thread, and/or making sure the threads are tightly packed against each other.
Of course there is a third option - the use of NCP thread. ........................ Re: Light colored threads and bleed-through
Posted by:
Clinton Terry
(---.mia.bellsouth.net)
Date: July 30, 2010 04:25PM
Hi Tom: This raises another question I have had. Is NCP a type of thread, so that true color is the same as NCP, or is it product made by Gudebrod or some other manufacturer. Getting Gudebrod threads these days is difficult, sometimes.
Clinton Re: Light colored threads and bleed-through
Posted by:
Lance Dupre
(---.hsd1.la.comcast.net)
Date: July 30, 2010 04:28PM
even if you put 5 coats of color preserver on your wraps you'll still get bleed through if you don't pack your threads tight enough. Any small gaps in your thread and your underwrap, guide foot or the blank will show through. Make sure you pack them tight. Re: Light colored threads and bleed-through
Posted by:
Raymond Adams
(---.hsd1.ca.comcast.net)
Date: July 30, 2010 05:24PM
Swampland Tackle Lance Dupre Wrote:
------------------------------------------------------- > even if you put 5 coats of color preserver on your > wraps you'll still get bleed through if you don't > pack your threads tight enough. Any small gaps in > your thread and your underwrap, guide foot or the > blank will show through. Make sure you pack them > tight. That's a fact! So much so that most times there is a bleed through issue if one looks very close with magnification one will see those tiny gaps that the naked eye misses. Raymond Adams Eventually, all things merge, and a river runs through it.. Re: Light colored threads and bleed-through
Posted by:
Grant Darby
(---.wavecable.com)
Date: July 30, 2010 06:14PM
Other manufacturers offer an NCP thread, Fish Hawk is Color Lok, Pac Bay is Stay Tru. There others, but that should get you a pretty good start. Re: Light colored threads and bleed-through
Posted by:
Tom Kirkman
(Moderator)
Date: July 30, 2010 08:52PM
NCP is an opaque thread which means it won't go semi-transparent when you wet it. Regular nylon turns dark or semi-transparent when you wet it, just like if you spilled something on your shirt. CP seals it and prevents that from happening.
But putting a dark color over a light color always entails some lose in shade. That's the nature of the beast and CP isn't going to perform miracles. Larger thread, tighter packing or NCP are the keys here. Just remember that NCP looks more like paint - it doesn't have the subtle sparkle that regular nylon does. ................ Re: Light colored threads and bleed-through
Posted by:
Steve Johnson
(---.hsd1.fl.comcast.net)
Date: July 30, 2010 10:25PM
A good test is to wet the thread (or wrap) with alcohol. This is approximately the same color change that will occur with epoxy. Make SURE all of the alcohol has evaporated before finishing. I think vaggie or mineral oil works even better to see the effect but obviously you don't want to epoxy over that. Use a test wrap. Re: Light colored threads and bleed-through
Posted by:
Mike Winkler
(24.164.247.---)
Date: July 30, 2010 10:39PM
Like said above, pack it tight! Re: Light colored threads and bleed-through
Posted by:
Bill Eshelman
(---.neo.res.rr.com)
Date: July 31, 2010 02:55AM
I just did a practise on a rod I had broken, It was a 3 inch wrap with white NCP. I put two coats of cp on top, then some TM lite, It looked very good. As they say, ``Pack, Pack, Pack.``
Bill Ohio Rod Builders Canton, Ohio Re: Light colored threads and bleed-through
Posted by:
Russell Brunt
(---.fort-lauderdale-04rh15-16rt.fl.dial-access.att.net)
Date: July 31, 2010 03:34AM
Rose over a black blank shouldn't be too problematic. If you want to put white over a black blank you might wish to consider painting that section of the blank white first. Russ in Hollywood, FL. Re: Light colored threads and bleed-through
Posted by:
Bob Balcombe
(---.rb2.gh.centurytel.net)
Date: August 01, 2010 03:05PM
I always pack tight. What was not mentioned was burnishing, Burnishing will flatten the thread and make it more compact. I like 00, A or B thread when wrapping guides. I hate the bulk look on wraps Good Wraps Bob Sorry, only registered users may post in this forum.
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