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Threadmaster Lite window
Posted by: Wade White (---.dsl.iowatelecom.net)
Date: May 31, 2010 09:17PM

I typically wait 6 hours between coats of TM Lite, but was wondering if I can wait 24 hours without issues between coats?

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Re: Threadmaster Lite window
Posted by: Chris Carrigan (---.tmodns.net)
Date: May 31, 2010 09:41PM

Wade,
I have gone 24 hours numerous times between coats of finish without any issues. If you go longer than that then lightly scuff the finish without effecting the threads and then recoat with finish. You will be fine.

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Re: Threadmaster Lite window
Posted by: Wade White (---.dsl.iowatelecom.net)
Date: May 31, 2010 10:01PM

Sweet. Thanks.

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Re: Threadmaster Lite window
Posted by: John Sams (66.28.139.---)
Date: May 31, 2010 10:04PM

I think yhou have up to three days before you have to scuff anythihg. You can do a search to get that info.

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Re: Threadmaster Lite window
Posted by: Billy Vivona (---.nycmny.east.verizon.net)
Date: June 01, 2010 08:06AM

Why bother scuffing?

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Re: Threadmaster Lite window
Posted by: Tom Kirkman (Moderator)
Date: June 01, 2010 08:12AM

24 hours will be no problem. Just apply directly and without concern.

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Re: Threadmaster Lite window
Posted by: Duane Richards (---.ronkva.east.verizon.net)
Date: June 01, 2010 02:28PM

24 is FINE, do that all the time. No scuff as Billy stated.

DR

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Re: Threadmaster Lite window
Posted by: Billy Vivona (---.nycmny.east.verizon.net)
Date: June 01, 2010 03:05PM

I mean why bother scuffing at all, regardless of the time? Honest question - an dI know the Manu recommends it. It's common for me to put finish on an UW or Dec WRap, and sometimes weks ++ later I wrap a guide, or a week later put another coat on the Dec WRap.

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Re: Threadmaster Lite window
Posted by: Tom Kirkman (Moderator)
Date: June 01, 2010 04:10PM

The reason is that when you apply a second application of finish within a certain time period, you end up with a single coat - the two meld into one, sort of. After that time period, however, a second application usually results in two separate coats or layers, one on top of the other. The second one may not always fully adhere to the first, and over time can peel away. Thus, preparing a water-break-free surface on the first layer allows the second one to properly adhere.

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Re: Threadmaster Lite window
Posted by: bill boettcher (---.dyn.optonline.net)
Date: June 01, 2010 04:47PM

Like Tom says, I would not paint a car with out cleaning it first - then giving it a wet sand , before any additional coats of - any material is applied. It has to adhere - stick. Epoxy fully cures in - what 7 plus days,

I could think that if the finish is thinned with some thing that would - maybe - soften the old finish and help it to ad hear to it.

But how hard is it to scuff If it peals - your bad..

Bill - willierods.com

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Re: Threadmaster Lite window
Posted by: Billy Vivona (---.nycmny.east.verizon.net)
Date: June 01, 2010 06:46PM

TOm, if that is the case shouldn't we be scuffing the blank as well? Or is it because the blank is coated with a non-epoxy urethane or whatever?

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Re: Threadmaster Lite window
Posted by: Tom Kirkman (Moderator)
Date: June 01, 2010 07:26PM

The epoxy will bond to the thread - that's enough. There is no reason for it to bond to the blank itself. However, if you want to do this, you certainly could, but good luck getting a guide wrap off if you need to replace a guide. The difference between epoxy on an unprepared surface and one where a water-break-free surface is present is night and day.

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Re: Threadmaster Lite window
Posted by: Duane Richards (---.ronkva.east.verizon.net)
Date: June 02, 2010 02:57PM

Depending on how fast the finish epoxy usually sets up can make a difference whether you need to scuff or not (finish on finish here). Fast setting epoxy's like Threadmaster Reg build, I'll scuff after 3+ days. Slower finish like Aftcote you can wait 2 weeks and be fine without scuffing unless you're in a hot area or use heat to cure.

I never scuff the rod blank where thread will be..... and I always scuff the blank where thread WON'T be: decal areas, marbling area's, epoxy ramps, and so on.

I know for a fact that finish applied to a rod blank area that is not cleaned and scuffed WILL eventually FAIL and peel. Tried it myself on my own rod, and it was a brown StCroix that came with "soft" paint way back when. Plain mild Alcohol would take off the brown, but finish eventually delaminated & turned loose from the blank over time.

DR

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