I was given a rod to help out that need 3 new eyes put on. No Problem there

Problem is it is a 2 piece and will not break down.

The rod is about 2 months old and is a 12 foot Okuma Longitude surf rod.
He went fishing early in the day and fished all day long. When he went to leave he could n't get the rod to break down. I and another guy have tried to seperate with no luck at all.

Does anyone know any special tricks that can help me to get this rod to break down.


Thank you in Advance,
Vince Nadosky

might just try soaking it in water for an extended period, or use a penetrating oil. Also try a little heat on the joint with a heat gun or blow dryer.

Cold

As the wall thickness decreases due to the cold, that makes the OD smaller and the ID larger.




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Better to have and not need than to need and not have.

I had one like that, I lightly sprayed WD40 around the female Ferrel a time or 3 and let it sit standing up, Ferrel opening up, overnight. Next day, one pull and twisting motion and it came apart perfectly.

DR

I would do the cold thing. Wrap a bag of ice around it for fifteen minutes and then try it. Also if you wind a big band of tape around the rod blank on both sides of the ferrule it will give you something to grab onto and you can put more twisting pressure into it. You want to TWIST not PULL the ferrule apart.

I would lay a bag of dry ice or ice cubes around the male section, let set about 5 minutes then apply a hot rag on the female section with the dry ice or cubed ice still in place. Do not twist just pull straight out. Twisting will cause what ever foreign matter cause the rod to stick will lock it tighter. You will need two strong guys to pull, because the male section I bet goes in 3 inches. after the 2 parts separate look for scratches an foreign material. Clean out the female end with soap and water. I would then use Ferrule Lube to lubricate the male end. Do not use any oils! Oils will cause foreign material to gather in the female section. Good luck.

Good Wraps Bob

Greetings Vince Nadosky,

Nowadays, "we" (I mean our culture) has benefitted with some great materials and tools ;

for example, epoxy, acrylics, velcro, stainless steel and yes, duct-tape.
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I would want you to apply no stressors for your job; Rather, get yourself a full roll of "duct tape" for this job.

And then I want you to wrap a 'stub' beside the ferrule until this outside diameter is substantial (my guess, would be about ~11/2").

Place another matching stub of duct tape on the opposite side of the ferrule. Then, after a little bit of lube-ing fluid such as with 'armor-all' ,. WD-40, apply your best torque while twisting these stubs in opposing directions.

BTW, My crystal ball tells me that you may, also, find some powdery grit to explain the lockup. When you have opened the joint ; have some kleenex to capture any that 'grit'. Perhaps, I am wrong.

I also hope you will remember to report your findings to all us.

IMHOP though; please resist excessive: bending stresses(no bending loads), impact blows (no impacts), heating ( no heating unless you feel you are an expert like the makers), etc.

bon waggling, Vince

Bob Marie

Have you tried pulling them apart behind your knees ? Pulled many a stuck one apart by this method. Put the rod behind your knees and grasp it as you would normally when separating . Push your knees against your wrists, using both your legs and your hands to pull.
You will be amazed at the force you can apply using this method.
Try that before you start heating and cooling and lubing.

J.B.Hunt
Bowling Green, KY

JB has just explained the age old method for disjointing ferrules. Mostly older metal types but there should be no reason why this same method would not be equally effective on modern graphite ferrules.

Metal ferrules were designed to be assembled and disassembled by a direct and straight push-pull motion. Integral glass and graphite were designed to be assembled and disassembled with a twisting motion. Most stuck ferrules are the result of leaving a rod assembled over period of time and having contraction and expansion due to temperature changes stick the mating pieces. Cold is nearly always a better remedy than heat on integral glass or graphite ferrules.

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I want to thank everyone that replied. I tried the method of packing the ferule in ice. i took a bago of ice and wrapped around the rod at ferule. Tried after 10 minutes no luck. Decided to give it another shot waited 30 minutes then we twisted and it seperated fine. Found alot of black oily like grease in there.

Once again thank you all.

Vince

Glad to hear you got the two sections separated. I was going to suggest pulling straight with a twisting motion while using the ice and heating method. Heating and cooling both sections at the same time seems to do the most good. Alot of good information above if you can decide which of the 17 methods you want to try.

"black oily like grease" sounds like another attempt at using the wrong product for the wrong reason on the wrong parts! But I'll betcha that person will keep on using it!!

Might be a good idea to tell the owner of the rod that whatever he is using - Don't.

Bill - willierods.com

Glade you got the rod apart. Every suggestion you received has important task on certain situation. When assembling a glass or graphite ferrule. The recommend way is to off set the 2 parts say 15% and with a twisting, pushing motion center the 2 parts. To remove just reverse the twist and lightly pull apart. Never oil a glass or graphite ferrule. I use Ferrule Lube by Trondak U-40. This product does a great job and there is no oily residue left on the blank

Good Wraps Bob

Don't get too generous with your Ferrule Lube Bob. It's not listed on Trondak"s website anymore. Mine only goes on new rods now, maybe if enough folks used it, Ralph would bring it back!

Ralph isn't involved with the day to day operations at Trondak and hasn't been in some time. But you're right - Danny and Walt dropped it due to poor sales which is a shame because it was a very unique product that did everything it claimed to do.

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Grant I just damping my finger and apply. A little goes a long way

Good Wraps Bob

I just keep mine clean and dry.

Bill - willierods.com