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Four jaw chuck vs. three jaw
Posted by: Kevin Bergeron (---.static.networktel.net)
Date: April 26, 2010 12:31PM

Hello gentlemen, just started using mandrels instead of using the blank straight onto the chuck. Do you guys use a four jaw chuck for threaded mandrels or does a three jaw work better? Which are your favorites? Thanks

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Re: Four jaw chuck vs. three jaw
Posted by: Eric Viburs (---.gc.usar.army.mil)
Date: April 26, 2010 01:01PM

I use a 4 jaw but only cause I use it to hold square stock as well when center boring and turning round.

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Re: Four jaw chuck vs. three jaw
Posted by: roger wilson (---.hsd1.mn.comcast.net)
Date: April 26, 2010 01:03PM

Kevin,
Any time that I am chucking up a round object, I typically use a 3 jaw self centering chuck. The reason is that the accuracy is quite good and the convience is better than an independent chuck adjustment.
Any time that I am chucking up an object that is not round, I will typically use a 4 jawed independent chuck to get the best lathe operation and material holding.
Also, if I find that I can't get the 3 jaw self centering lathe nicely centered, due to some issue with the object or something else, I will use the 4 jaw independent jawed chuck.

With a 4 jaw independent chuck, you can idal virtually all of the run out or wobble out of any reasonable chucked object. It is just that it takes considerably more time to chuck up an object with an independent adjustable chuck, compared to a self centering chuck.
The down side of a self centering chuck, is that you might get a touch of wobble or run out, if the chuck is not a very high quality with very close tolerances.

On even the best of the self centering chuck, you can typically do a bit better with run out with an independent chuck if you take the time. However, for most rod building needs, there is simply no need for the super, super accuracy and minimal run out that is achieved by the independent adjustable chuck.

If you plan to make some solid handles out of wood stock, which is typically cut to a square on a band saw, the use of the 4-jawed chuck will be the best bet.

Summary - round stock - 3 jaw.
Square stock - 4 jaw.
Non symeterical stock - 4 jaw.

Take care

Roger

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Re: Four jaw chuck vs. three jaw
Posted by: Tom Kirkman (Moderator)
Date: April 26, 2010 02:03PM

There are 4-jaw self centering chucks available (Taig) and in some cases they offer you the best of most worlds.

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Re: Four jaw chuck vs. three jaw
Posted by: Kerry Hansen (---.proxy.aol.com)
Date: April 26, 2010 02:16PM

However for a 4-jaw self centering chuck, if you are using something that is not square like odd shaped or rectangular you will only have two of the jaws coming in contact with the object, that is why I use a 3 jaw self centering chuck or a 4 jaw independant chuck.

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Re: Four jaw chuck vs. three jaw
Posted by: Kevin Bergeron (---.static.networktel.net)
Date: April 26, 2010 02:33PM

Thanks, I am going to try and use the mandrels for all my turning. Since I don't have a drill press I will use the 4 jaw that I already have for the boring. I guess I would like to know that which chuck will hold the mandrel straighter, or does it not matter.

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Re: Four jaw chuck vs. three jaw
Posted by: Mike Barkley (---.nap.wideopenwest.com)
Date: April 26, 2010 02:46PM

Another option is to use a Morse taper drill chuck in the head stock for mandrels. Not only cheaper, but the mandrel cannot slip though and cause an accident like with a 3 or 4 jaw chuck. That being said, I use a 3 jaw for mandrels (because I already had one) and a 4 jaw self centering for boring or turning square or off center stuff

Mike (Southgate, MI)
If I don't want to, I don't have to and nobody can make me (except my wife) cuz I'm RETIRED!!

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Re: Four jaw chuck vs. three jaw
Posted by: Eric Viburs (---.gc.usar.army.mil)
Date: April 26, 2010 03:02PM

You can also use a jacobs chuck for mandrels if all you want to do is "hold' them. I like the self center 4 jaw as I can pass the mandrel through the chuck to shorten the distence between the head and tail stock so I do not have 18" of mandrel for a 4" peice of wood.

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Re: Four jaw chuck vs. three jaw
Posted by: John Kepka (---.dsl.stlsmo.sbcglobal.net)
Date: April 27, 2010 05:57PM

For holding mandrels I use a collet chuck.

John
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Re: Four jaw chuck vs. three jaw
Posted by: Dan Ertz (---.dsl.airstreamcomm.net)
Date: April 28, 2010 10:57AM

John Kepka Wrote:
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> For holding mandrels I use a collet chuck.


I agree with John.

When I was a tool & die maker, if possible, I always used a collet chuck instead of a 3 or 4 jaw chuck. They run truer, are less apt to crush the work piece, and you don't have the "meat grinder" jaws jutting out to bark your knuckles on. A plus for small hobby lathes is that they don't take up valuable space between the head and tail stocks.

Dan

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Re: Four jaw chuck vs. three jaw
Posted by: roger wilson (---.hsd1.mn.comcast.net)
Date: April 28, 2010 11:43AM

Dan,
I am going to have to go back and do some digging and find my collet chucks for my lathe. They are gathering dust, as I nurse my barked knuckles from a recent too close encounter with the lath chuck.

Take care
Roger

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Re: Four jaw chuck vs. three jaw
Posted by: Russell Brunt (---.mercymiami.org)
Date: April 28, 2010 03:21PM

"meat grinder" jaws

I love it. Brings back a vivid memory of long hair in high school metal shop. Hair got caught in the work piece and I was certain my skull was about to become ground meat. I reared back, made the belts slip, and ripped a bunch of hair out by the roots. There was enough blood involved for many to think I was indeed ground meat.

Russ in Hollywood, FL.

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