I haven't experienced any issues myself, but I am hearing rumblings from a few rod builders about guide quality.

In some cases, the lesser quality seems to be localized to a particular guide in a particular series of a rod manufacturer.

Just wondering if any one has been having any issues that other folks would like to know about?

Take care
Roger

Seems you know something that was important enough you thought it should be said. Seems you also know some pretty specific information about it.

Why just stir the pot?

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Roger without knowing what you are hinting at I can only say the following.

Several decades of saltwater fishing has me very happy to see 316 SS guides being offered.

Russ in Hollywood, FL.

Roger;

You talking about the same guides you posted info on a while back.
Then declined to provide the necessary info to allow others to be aware of the situation

"I haven't experienced any issues myself, but I am hearing rumblings from a few rod builders about guide quality. "

A few rod builders? How many? Out of the 300,000 guys and gals that will build a rod this year, how many have you actually heard from?

You don't have to go far to hear a "few rod builders" rumble on about any number of things that aren't necessarily true. The key is to recognize the numbers for what they are and to remember that rumors travel fast particularly in these days of instant information exchange via the internet.

I have no idea what guides you're talking about nor whether there is an actual problem or not, but I'd advise folks not to get too carried away by the "rumblings" of a few rod builders with no face behind their comments to begin with. Even if Tunaman, OffshoreTycoon, Hooksetter1 and a dozen more anonymous rod builders said they had a problem with something, I wouldn't necessarily believe it. After all, you can easily find a couple dozen builders who will tell you that the ICRBE is a completely worthless event, and all the while over 2000 other rod builders think it's special enough to keep coming back. Just try to keep things in the proper perspective.

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Tom,
I couldn't agree with you more. As you said, I also haven't had any problems, but was simply asking for input from any builder who have actually had an issue with a guide?

Take care
Roger

Wow....what an enlightening subject....if you have valid info on a guide post it...if not what was the point? Have i ever had an issue with a guide? Sure.....

Scott Sheets
www.smsrods.com

PRETTY OPEN ENDED!!! ! One could ask the same question on any component or product and start a thread full of questionable responses.

I've heard from a few drivers that there is a certain line of cars that don't really perform all that well. At times they have had issues when they're driving them, and the service hasn't been very good for them either with this particular car maker. I haven't had any issues myself, but I'm wondering if any other drivers out there have had any similar type experiences that any of us other drivers might want to know about.

AC
FishinFreaks
Rogers, MN



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I'm not going to beat around ya roger, what have you heard? You spill it and someone may feel compelled to adjudicate what you've heard.

Geeeze guys. He simply asked for information. HE has heard things. He is simply asking the many many readers and rod builders on here if they know of, or have heard of any bad guides. I would ask that question about anything in rod building. From glue turning yellow, to bad thread, to color permanence to what ever. He just asked a question. He politely did not mention a guide and affect it's reputation. I think it is a reasonable question. I find no fault with it at all. In fact that is why I come on here. To ask questions and read people's opinions and get information on "everything" in rod building. I am quite the rookie. If I hear of a rumor, or ANYTHING that I am curious about.....I will come on here and ask a question abou it.

Jim

I'd like to hear the specifics too. Also, it may invite the manufacturer to become aware of the potential problem(s) (if there acutally are any) so that they may make any necessary corrections in order to please the customers. For example, in the past I've read about the extensive amount of guide foot preparation necessary to use a certain line of guides. The manufacturer chimed in, addressed the concerns and made the corrections, which resulted in follow up reports by the previously disgruntled rod builders indicating that these corrections have indeed been made and that the product is now "favorable". But, we AND the manufacturers need to hear about those specifics in order to remedy any potential problems.

Aaron, in the meantime, my Toyota is............