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O-Rings for a Dale Clemens rod lathe
Posted by: John Murray II (---.ilm.bellsouth.net)
Date: January 26, 2010 07:20AM

Can anyone tell me where I can buy O Rings for a Dale Clemens Lathe also what is the size exactly?
Renzetti ones will work- are there any others out there? Any info would be very helpful. Thanks

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Re: O-Rings for a Dale Clemens rod lathe
Posted by: Chris Wolf (164.156.115.---)
Date: January 26, 2010 07:24AM

Which o rings are you talking about? The o rings that are on the rod holder wheels?

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Re: O-Rings for a Dale Clemens rod lathe
Posted by: John Murray II (---.ilm.bellsouth.net)
Date: January 26, 2010 07:27AM

Exactly-That is where they are located, My lathe has 9 of them.

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Re: O-Rings for a Dale Clemens rod lathe
Posted by: Tom Kirkman (Moderator)
Date: January 26, 2010 07:44AM

If you have any industrial machinery supply companies in your area, give them a try. Most will have assorted sizes of large O-rings.

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Re: O-Rings for a Dale Clemens rod lathe
Posted by: Ken Bonneau (---.dalecarnegie.com)
Date: January 26, 2010 08:19AM

John, Billy Vivona has replacement "O" Rings for the Clemens & Renzetti lathes. Send hin an e-mail, I'm sure he would be happy to help.

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Re: O-Rings for a Dale Clemens rod lathe
Posted by: kevin knox (---.baybroadband.net)
Date: January 26, 2010 08:41AM

Any hydraulics supply house will have them. They are used on hydraulic hoses.

Look in the phonebook under hydraulics.

Kevin

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Re: O-Rings for a Dale Clemens rod lathe
Posted by: Dave Fowler (---.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com)
Date: January 26, 2010 08:50AM

If you Google "o-rings", you will find a lot of places that sell them. I needed to replace the large one that is the belt drive on my PacBay wrapper, but did not want to pay catalog prices. I was able to get 10 for about $18 and they seem to work fine. You just need to get the exact measurement (diameter and thickness of the ring).

Dave Fowler

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Re: O-Rings for a Dale Clemens rod lathe
Posted by: Billy Vivona (---.nycmny.east.verizon.net)
Date: January 26, 2010 09:20AM

I've got a ton of O-rings to fit a Clemens or Renzetti lathe, I got Viton rubber which is better than what was supplied with my Clemens lathe and last much longer. The cost is $1 per O ring.

Here are the properties of the Viton rubbr O rings:

Viton® Properties

Vulcanizates based on Viton® fluoroelastomers provide an exceptional balance of physical property characteristics including the following features:
1. Resistance to temperature extremes:
Heat
Viton® withstands high temperature and simultaneously retains its good mechanical properties better than most other elastomers. Oil and chemical resistance also are relatively unaffected by elevated temperatures. Compounds of Viton® remain usefully elastic indefinitely when exposed to laboratory air oven aging up to 204°C (400°F) or to intermittent test exposures up to 260°C (500°F

Cold
Viton® is generally serviceable in dynamic applications down to -18° to -23°C (0° to -10°F), although special formulations permit its use in static applications down to -54°C (-65°F). Also, Viton® has proven to be satisfactory for static seals used under conditions approaching absolute zero.
2. Resistance to degradation by a greater variety of fluids and chemicals than any non-fluorinated elastomer, providing the best proven fluid resistance of any commercial rubber. Excellent resistance to oils, fuels, lubricants, and most mineral acids.
3. Extremely low permeability to a broad range of substances, including particularly good performance in oxygenated automotive fuels.
4. Resistance to many aliphatic and aromatic hydrocarbon fluids that act as solvents for other rubbers.
5. Exceptionally good resistance to compression set, even at temperatures which can embrittle other non-fluorinated elastomers.
6. Exceptionally good resistance to atmospheric oxidation, sun, and weather. Excellent resistance to fungus and mold.
7. Good electrical properties in low voltage, low frequency applications.
8. Low burning characteristics; inherently more resistant to burning than other non-fluorinated hydrocarbon rubbers.

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Re: O-Rings for a Dale Clemens rod lathe
Posted by: roger wilson (---.hsd1.mn.comcast.net)
Date: January 26, 2010 11:58AM

John,
For your lathe, you don't need a fancy O-ring.
If you have one wear or rot out, simply put on a new one.
Go to your local hardware store to the plumbing department and pick up as many as you need for a few cents each.

You can also pick up the o-ring drive belts - if your lathe uses this style ring to drive the lathe as well.
Simple and easy.

Take care
Roger

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Re: O-Rings for a Dale Clemens rod lathe
Posted by: Chris Wolf (164.156.115.---)
Date: January 26, 2010 12:35PM

How many do you need? I have one or two I can send you.

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Re: O-Rings for a Dale Clemens rod lathe
Posted by: Billy Vivona (---.nycmny.east.verizon.net)
Date: January 26, 2010 02:09PM

I never found ones tht fit from a local source, and I'm not alone with that - by the time people drove around wasting gas, maybe not even finding one that fit properly, and having them break after a short period - I would think it would be a lot cheaper to buy fancy ones that definitely fit and last substantially longer. All you need to go is go to your mailbox to find them. There was a reason why I ordered them, and why a dozen other guys got in on that original order when it was placed last summer on another local fishing website.

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Re: O-Rings for a Dale Clemens rod lathe
Posted by: Sean Endres (---.cpe.metrocast.net)
Date: January 26, 2010 02:12PM

Got mine from my local True Value Hardware store.

Sean Endres
North East Rod Builders
New London, CT

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Re: O-Rings for a Dale Clemens rod lathe
Posted by: Tom Kirkman (Moderator)
Date: January 26, 2010 02:17PM

The Viton rings end up being a nearly "lifetime" ring. They last much, much longer before they start drying and cracking. They're well worth paying a little bit more. They end up being less expensive in the long run.

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Re: O-Rings for a Dale Clemens rod lathe
Posted by: Vella (---.sd.sd.cox.net)
Date: January 26, 2010 06:37PM

Billy Vivona Wrote:
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> I've got a ton of O-rings to fit a Clemens or
> Renzetti lathe, I got Viton rubber which is better
> than what was supplied with my Clemens lathe and
> last much longer. The cost is $1 per O ring.
>
> Here are the properties of the Viton rubbr O
> rings:
>
> Viton® Properties
>
> Vulcanizates based on Viton® fluoroelastomers
> provide an exceptional balance of physical
> property characteristics including the following
> features:
> 1. Resistance to temperature extremes:
> Heat
> Viton® withstands high temperature and
> simultaneously retains its good mechanical
> properties better than most other elastomers. Oil
> and chemical resistance also are relatively
> unaffected by elevated temperatures. Compounds of
> Viton® remain usefully elastic indefinitely when
> exposed to laboratory air oven aging up to 204°C
> (400°F) or to intermittent test exposures up to
> 260°C (500°F
>
> Cold
> Viton® is generally serviceable in dynamic
> applications down to -18° to -23°C (0° to
> -10°F), although special formulations permit its
> use in static applications down to -54°C
> (-65°F). Also, Viton® has proven to be
> satisfactory for static seals used under
> conditions approaching absolute zero.
> 2. Resistance to degradation by a greater variety
> of fluids and chemicals than any non-fluorinated
> elastomer, providing the best proven fluid
> resistance of any commercial rubber. Excellent
> resistance to oils, fuels, lubricants, and most
> mineral acids.
> 3. Extremely low permeability to a broad range of
> substances, including particularly good
> performance in oxygenated automotive fuels.
> 4. Resistance to many aliphatic and aromatic
> hydrocarbon fluids that act as solvents for other
> rubbers.
> 5. Exceptionally good resistance to compression
> set, even at temperatures which can embrittle
> other non-fluorinated elastomers.
> 6. Exceptionally good resistance to atmospheric
> oxidation, sun, and weather. Excellent resistance
> to fungus and mold.
> 7. Good electrical properties in low voltage, low
> frequency applications.
> 8. Low burning characteristics; inherently more
> resistant to burning than other non-fluorinated
> hydrocarbon rubbers.


Billy, I want to buy a dozen or 2 how do we make this happen?

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Re: O-Rings for a Dale Clemens rod lathe
Posted by: Sam Hightower (---.hsd1.va.comcast.net)
Date: January 26, 2010 07:57PM

Billy,

Will you have them available at the ICRBE?

Thanks,
Sam

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Re: O-Rings for a Dale Clemens rod lathe
Posted by: Robert Moody (---.proxy.aol.com)
Date: January 26, 2010 10:47PM

If you have a Clemens lathe it is unlikely a Renzetti. I have had mine for 25 years and called Renzetti on Monday about replacement O rings and they informed me that they still use the same roller O rings that came with my lathe. They cost $2.00 each but they are available. Commercial O rings don't quite seem to fit tightly enough and have come off at times.

Robert Moody

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Re: O-Rings for a Dale Clemens rod lathe
Posted by: Robert Moody (---.proxy.aol.com)
Date: January 26, 2010 10:47PM

If you have a Clemens lathe it is unlikely a Renzetti. I have had mine for 25 years and called Renzetti on Monday about replacement O rings and they informed me that they still use the same roller O rings that came with my lathe. They cost $2.00 each but they are available. Commercial O rings don't quite seem to fit tightly enough and have come off at times.

Robert Moody

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Re: O-Rings for a Dale Clemens rod lathe
Posted by: Tom Kirkman (Moderator)
Date: January 27, 2010 07:40AM

If you have the Clemens lathe it is either a Renzetti or a copy of the Renzetti. The wheels used on the roller supports are the same.

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Re: O-Rings for a Dale Clemens rod lathe
Posted by: John Murray II (---.ilm.bellsouth.net)
Date: January 27, 2010 09:25AM

Billy Vivona Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> I've got a ton of O-rings to fit a Clemens or
> Renzetti lathe, I got Viton rubber which is better
> than what was supplied with my Clemens lathe and
> last much longer. The cost is $1 per O ring.
>
> Here are the properties of the Viton rubbr O
> rings:
>
> Viton® Properties
>
> Vulcanizates based on Viton® fluoroelastomers
> provide an exceptional balance of physical
> property characteristics including the following
> features:
> 1. Resistance to temperature extremes:
> Heat
> Viton® withstands high temperature and
> simultaneously retains its good mechanical
> properties better than most other elastomers. Oil
> and chemical resistance also are relatively
> unaffected by elevated temperatures. Compounds of
> Viton® remain usefully elastic indefinitely when
> exposed to laboratory air oven aging up to 204°C
> (400°F) or to intermittent test exposures up to
> 260°C (500°F
>
> Cold
> Viton® is generally serviceable in dynamic
> applications down to -18° to -23°C (0° to
> -10°F), although special formulations permit its
> use in static applications down to -54°C
> (-65°F). Also, Viton® has proven to be
> satisfactory for static seals used under
> conditions approaching absolute zero.
> 2. Resistance to degradation by a greater variety
> of fluids and chemicals than any non-fluorinated
> elastomer, providing the best proven fluid
> resistance of any commercial rubber. Excellent
> resistance to oils, fuels, lubricants, and most
> mineral acids.
> 3. Extremely low permeability to a broad range of
> substances, including particularly good
> performance in oxygenated automotive fuels.
> 4. Resistance to many aliphatic and aromatic
> hydrocarbon fluids that act as solvents for other
> rubbers.
> 5. Exceptionally good resistance to compression
> set, even at temperatures which can embrittle
> other non-fluorinated elastomers.
> 6. Exceptionally good resistance to atmospheric
> oxidation, sun, and weather. Excellent resistance
> to fungus and mold.
> 7. Good electrical properties in low voltage, low
> frequency applications.
> 8. Low burning characteristics; inherently more
> resistant to burning than other non-fluorinated
> hydrocarbon rubbers.

Billy-Sounds like you have the Premier O-ring -I would like to order some from you-can you reply by e-mail to tell me how I can pay for them.
My E-mail address is j_pmurray@bellsouth.net.. Thanks for posting.

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Re: O-Rings for a Dale Clemens rod lathe
Posted by: Billy Vivona (---.nycmny.east.verizon.net)
Date: January 27, 2010 09:28AM

Sam, I will bring what I have left, I've had a few guys order O rings yesterday, so if I sell out of my stock then I won't have any left to bring. IT's easier to just order them right now sinc eI'm gonna stick them in an envelope and not charge any shipping, so you're not saving anything waiting a month except that I might sell out and you won't be able to get them.

As stated, teh REnzetti & Clemens have the exact same wheels, I've sold these o-rings to people with both units. We also got these made a little tighter, so that when turning the ring doesn't "bubble up", they fit nice and snug and don't pop off like the other ones I had which came with my Clemens.

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