I'm putting together a 6' spin rod, in my calculation the spool diameter is 50mm multiply 27 =1350 to place the choker guide. When I measure this from the front of the reel spool I only have about 6 inches of space to place one running guide maybe two running guides (no closer than 4") Is this sounds about right?

Thanks

Lou

Thats a close starting point and sounds about right, you can move back or forward a little bit depending on test casting, stress distrubution test, etc.

Sometimes I'll goto my choke size with a higher frame one guide back from the actual choke guide which is often a fly guide.

You're fine. Remember, the length of the rod is not really an issue. There is no set number of running guides you must have. The running guides are just there to take up the remaining space between the choker guide and the tiptop. On two rods of different length, but using the same line and reel, the choker should be the same distance from the reel on both outfits. The only difference in the rods will be that one has more running guides than the other.

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i am still having problems with the mm conversion

Terry:

This site should help: [www.lambron.com]

Bill - willierods.com

Your best bet is not to convert. But if you must, there are 25.4mm in an inch.

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Good Morning Terry,

You don't have to convert to mm. You can just use inches if you like. If you measure the diameter of your reel spool in inches and multiply by 27, the number you get will be in inches and it is the distance needed for the choker guide to be located. There are many rulers that have the english measurements (inches) on one side and the millimeter (metric) numbers on the other side. When you measure a distance on that ruler, you can express it in inches or mm.

Mike Blomme

Terry:
The best trick I've found is a 6" digital micrometer that reads in inches or mm at the push of a button.
I bet you can find a real inexpensive one at a place like Harbor Freight or a similar store in your area.
Jon



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 01/15/2010 10:55AM by Jon Gold.

With the site I send you you can convert to inches and just use a tape measure. Check it by using the straight edge method.

Bill - willierods.com

Luis - with it set up this way do you think your rod resembles a New Guide Concept or the old Cone of Flight method?

Do not move your choke guide to accommodate rod length as neither the reel nor the line have any idea nor do they care how long the rod is. It is the distance between the reel and the choker guide that is important, not the length of the rod. It sounds to me as if you have squarely done this thing perfectly. Some go about it backwards, forcing the choke guide back towards the reel for no other reason than they think the rod MUST have more running guides. They are not looking at the dynamics of what takes place between the reel and the choker. THAT is the important span. Not the part of the rod past the choker.

On this rod you might have only one running guide. On a longer rod with the same reel and line you would have the choker guide in the exact same place but would have more running guides. All the running guides are for is to accommodate any additional rod length.

I would be leery of moving anything around in order to make it look like you think it should. Appearances can be deceiving! Set it up like the article says and you will indeed get the results you hope for. I believe you are doing it correctly. It has certainly proven its worth to me.

That's true - the NGC does not require you to have any running guides whatsoever. Whether you have them or not, or how many, depends on the size of the reel against the length of the rod. The only point of the running guides is to control the line and distribute stress on any rod length remaining past the choker guide. On some rods that length might require just 1 running guide, on longer ones it might require 10. On very short rods with very large diameter reels, the choker might be the tiptop and no running guides would be required at all.


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Luis - what guide sizes and spacings did you wind up with on this rod?

Gentleman,

Thanks for all your comments and information, I had to put this project to the side because I do not have the correct size of guides for the reduction guides. I order the concept guide set and, for some reason is not working for me( size wise) . Oh well I will get the gudes when I place my next order. Tim, sorry that I can be of much help.

Luis