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Reversing power winder
Posted by: John Lubben (---.static.gci.net)
Date: November 16, 2009 09:56PM

I have the RodSmith RW-3XL power wrapper. I was wondering is there a way to setup a reverse on the wrapping motor? I know you can flip the switch on the drying part to go backwards. Anyone ever change theirs around? I want to play with something and it requires the rod to spin towards me instead of away from me, sort of how a lathe would.

Regards,
John

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Re: Reversing power winder
Posted by: Barry Thomas Sr (---.hsd1.nj.comcast.net)
Date: November 16, 2009 10:03PM


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Re: Reversing power winder
Posted by: Barry Thomas Sr (---.hsd1.nj.comcast.net)
Date: November 16, 2009 10:03PM


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Re: Reversing power winder
Posted by: Chuck Payne (---.cable.mindspring.com)
Date: November 16, 2009 11:19PM

Could you just put a figure 8 in the belt and get it to spin the opposite direction? Dont know how much adjustment you have to make the belt tighter or looser.

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Re: Reversing power winder
Posted by: Chuck Mills (---.gctel.stellarllc.net)
Date: November 17, 2009 01:33AM

Barry - does that really work on an AC motor?

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Re: Reversing power winder
Posted by: Bob Balcombe (---.ka.centurytel.net)
Date: November 17, 2009 01:34AM

Chuck beat me too that suggestion. You will have to get a different belt. Take a heavy cord make a figure 8, take that measurement to a belt shop. You can also swap ends

Good Wraps Bob

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Re: Reversing power winder
Posted by: roger wilson (---.hsd1.mn.comcast.net)
Date: November 17, 2009 02:14AM

John,
Another thing that works very well is to replace the ac sewing machine motor that is on the wrapper with a DC motor and a dc power supply.
Then, to reverse motor direction, it is a simple matter to simply flip the polarity of the voltage feeding the motor - via a double pole double throw switch that is cross wired.

Depending on the sewing machine motor that is used on the wrapper, it may or may not be easy to get to the wires to hook them to a reversing switch.
If you can get to the brush wires, you can make the flip.

Good luck
Roger

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Re: Reversing power winder
Posted by: Barry Thomas Sr (---.hsd1.nj.comcast.net)
Date: November 17, 2009 10:41AM

I asked the Same question awhile back and got a lot of input from the folks here.

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Re: Reversing power winder
Posted by: Barry Thomas Sr (---.hsd1.nj.comcast.net)
Date: November 17, 2009 10:41AM

I asked the Same question awhile back and got a lot of input from the folks here.

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Re: Reversing power winder
Posted by: Ray Nicholas (---.lightspeed.hstntx.sbcglobal.net)
Date: November 17, 2009 10:47AM

I am going with Roger's suggestion, and have ordered a electric manicure machine (ok, go ahead and laugh) from that big internet @#$%& site. The main component is a 0-17v dc variable power supply. It has a speed control foot peddle, on/off switch, reversing switch and speed control knob. Plugs into wall outlet. Price: $40 including shipping. Only problem (so far): it comes from China and takes a month to get here. I will update when it gets here and I see how it works, if anyone is interested.

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Re: Reversing power winder
Posted by: Rena Hall (---.oc.oc.cox.net)
Date: November 17, 2009 11:15AM

Chuck,

1). You can not electrically reverse the standard AC motors by the diagram shown in the link -- > [www.rodbuilding.org]

2). However, If you have a motor whose label states that it is an AC/DC motor, (like all sewing machine motors and most rod wrapping motors), then you can reverse it by the scheme shown in the foregoing link, or by putting a figure 8 in the pulley belt.

3). The typical AC drying motors are synchronous timer motors and you can not reverse them electrically, but they normally
can be manually reversed by momentarily stopping them with your hand, then letting go. CAUTION: do not stop the motor for more than a few seconds, because you could strip the gears or burn out the motor!


Rena

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Re: Reversing power winder
Posted by: roger wilson (---.hsd1.mn.comcast.net)
Date: November 17, 2009 11:22AM

As Rena said,
You can reverse - series wound AC motors - or AC motors that have brushes.

Induction motors which do not have brushes, can not normally be reversed, unless there is a different winding built into the motor.
For example, there are quite a few 1/4 or 1/2 hp or larger motors which can be used on both 110v, 220v, will run either clockwise or counterclockwise, by changing the connections to the various windings that have been built into the motors. However, these motors are really not usable as a power wrapper because the nature of induction motors is that they are a single speed motor. i.e. in some cases they can be make to run at 1750 rpm, or 3600 rpm, but not variable speed.

Take care
Roger

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Re: Reversing power winder
Posted by: Andrew Wright (---.wavecable.com)
Date: March 04, 2010 01:41AM

So Ray,
What have you come with now that you have the Manicure set? i am looking for a cheap way to make a power wrapper/drier and with the mancure set it looks like it might work.
is the motor strong enough to spin a 9 1/2 foot salmon rod?

Andrew
Port Orchard, WA
The Pacific Northwest

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