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Too many guides or Too big Guides
Posted by:
Richard Khoury
(---.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au)
Date: October 16, 2009 02:07AM
Hi,
Apart from the weight issues, is it possible to have too many guides or guides that are too big to do the job properly? I ask this for two reasons: 1. I was looking at some tip tops, and I noticed that some mentioned "Standard" and "Large" Loop. 2. I had cast of a custom Dancraft #4 this week, and I noticed that there were 11 guides, plus 1 Tip Top, plus one striper. When the owner did a deflection test, the flyline was virtually following the road exactly. He is a first time rod builder, and the rod seemed to cast quite well. 3. Can you use the same size guides through out the whole blank - excluding the stripers. Are there any Adv or Disadvantages? Thanks, Richard Re: Too many guides or Too big Guides
Posted by:
Tom Kirkman
(Moderator)
Date: October 16, 2009 08:23AM
You're actually better off using fewer guide sizes. The reason so many builders use so many sizes is only because they're offered. You aren't creating a smoother nor more gradual anything when you use a bunch of different sizes. In most cases, you need 3 sizes at most, and even just 2 is likely to do as well. This saves weight and actually provides a straighter and smoother line path.
The proper size guides are the smallest ones that will pass your line and any required connections and hold up to the required task. There is rarely any need to use more than perhaps 1 guide per foot of rod length, plus one, plus a tiptop. Using many more than that only adds weight which undermines rod performance. Your friend's rod may cast quite nicely, but did you try it with a couple less guides or with smaller guides? You would be apt to find that it's much more responsive that way. Next time you set up a rod, tape on a set of larger than normal guides and use more of them. Try it. Then set it up your normal way and try that. It's easy to see the affect more and larger guides have. .................. Re: Too many guides or Too big Guides
Posted by:
Richard Khoury
(115.128.23.---)
Date: October 17, 2009 09:04AM
Hi Tom,
The rod I used was already bound and finished, so I couldn't try any other size guides with it. What size guides (single foot) would you recommend on a #4 9 Ft fast, flyrod? Apart from weight is there a disadvantage to use bigger guides? Tom Kirkman Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > The proper size guides are the smallest ones that > will pass your line and any required connections > and hold up to the required task. > > .................. Thanks, Richard Re: Too many guides or Too big Guides
Posted by:
Tom Kirkman
(Moderator)
Date: October 17, 2009 03:53PM
Bigger = heavier in most cases. What you want to do is use the proper sized guides. There is no need to go larger or smaller. Bigger means extra weight which translates into slower response and recovery times and more air resistance which will slow your movement of the rod (but this is getting out there a bit - the main downside is really just the weight).
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Posted by:
Richard Khoury
(---.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au)
Date: October 19, 2009 10:20PM
Thanks Tom Sorry, only registered users may post in this forum.
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