Alright, Sorry for being needy on the info this morning. I grabbed a bunch of stuff for a cosmetic coverup this morning, didn't have time to get the rod take it home and fix it as it's needed for a gift on wednesday. Due to the blemish on the split section of the grip, this rod was heavily discounted, I was asked by a bud if it could be covered up, nothing wrong with the rod. I commute 40 miles one way to work, so I'm going after work to setup the rod dryer at his house and throw a coat of tinted epoxy in that section of the rod, and let it spin so it's ready to be gifted on wednesday. I didn't bring any thread, but I thought about putting wraps in that section of the rod over the blemish and going with a clear epoxy finish. I only have craft stores available to get thread from, without CP, what can I expect to happen if I use their thread?

YOu''l find out when you test it yourself, depending on which brand and type of thread you buy. Do youreally expect to get good results when youuse a new product that you don't at least do a test on?

I wouldn't expect bad results if a few folks from the board said not to. Otherwise, I'm going to stear clear.

You could have silicone on the thread ending up with fish-eyes in the epoxy.

Based on the issues at hand, I don't think I'll get any good answers out of this thread, but I will be buying a few different brands and types of sewing machine thread and I'll be putting them to the test so I will know, and be able to share the data, this is just a last minute deal to help a friend out.

I'll try Andrew. A lot of craft stores carry embroidery materials and you may luck out with some metzler or even Maderia thread. Don't try a plain old sewing thread, I think it's the cotton that gets the frizzies. If you have to use color preserver and don't have it, you can try thinned down white craft glue in a pinch. Just make sure it's the stuff that dries clear. You will know right away if the thread you choose won't work, it'll puff up and get spikey. Good luck.

The answers you received were correct. If you go to a sewing store they have nylon thread and Mederia thread. They major problem with sewing machine thread is, it has been impregnated with silicone, This is so the thread will pass threw a needle and bobbin without fraying. Silicone will cause fish eyes. To stop fish eye you need to put some color preserver on the thread. Many experienced builders use sewing thread to get special color effects. The closest to a A thread is 40 WT

Good Wraps Bob

I tend to side with what Mr. Erikson said.
My mother is a seamstress and she has a huge selection of thread.
She says that some of the sewing thread has sizing on it which is a lubricant to help it move through the mechanisms of a sewing machine. After the garment is complete the sizing is washed out in the laundry. The sizing could be something as benign as cornstarch or as evil as silicone
If the thread is not clean, meaning impurities, you may get fish eyes, orange peal or crawling of your coating.
Actually she is the one that calls me up and raids my thread supply. I use nylon and it is stronger than what is used in clothing alterations.
Silk thread does not have sizing on it.
Ask one of the ladies at a fabric store they should know and they are usually very helpful.

TEHre are SO MANY different types of thread - Rayon, Polyester, Cotton, Silk, Nylon, etc, and so many companies MAdeira, Sulky, Superior, Hemmingworth, Coats & Clark, MEttler, etc,e tc. They all have different properties, sizes, lubricants - teh only way you are going to know if it's going to work is by testing it out. I know fo rme I will never use CP on a guide wrap, nor embroidery thread because I know it doesnt' work for me. TAHt is not the experiance of others. The only person that matters who's opinion is right is ours, so buying and testi gis the only way to come to that conclusion

Every craft shop has diffrent brands of thread. I've never seen MAdeira in teh local crafts shops here, but others have posted that they do. All that matters is what your craft shop has.

Coats & Clark 40wt. POLYESTER thread is found @ Wally world and many other places.
As per the Mfgr. (and my own experience) they don't coat their threads with silicone!
Get black and you won't need CP either to retain color or prevent transluciense.

You also could try cleaning any silicone off of another brand with alcohol.

Raymond Adams
Eventually, all things merge, and a river runs through it..

Raymonds's idea isnt bad either. Just wrap it, then soak the wrap with alcohol and wipe off with a paper towel. Repeat several times and by then all silicone remnants should be removed. I dont know if this works, as I havent tried it, but it's definitely a plausible idea.

Also recently it has been publicly acknowledged that paper towel dust disappears within finish. Something many have known for a long time, but since being posted on the forum I am sure it is much more well known now. So you won't have to worry about that either.

Sean - lol, sorry for exposing one of the long lost secrets of rodbuilding. I have wiped metallics with alcohol, certain brands will fade. NEver tried on regular thread - cant hurt to test it.

Say I try a new brand of thread and am using CP. Between the thread, CP, finish, drying times, and technique there are a lot of places for something to mess up. In general, is the problem obvious?....how do you know which product/step is the problem?

A test wrap is fine. Not knowing what to do with the results is depressing!

Russell,
Don't worry so much. Relax, it ain't rocket science and you will know what ya did or didn't do
for the most part. If the finish is repelled by the thread the thread has silicone coating and
you didn't get it sealed with the CP or you didn't wait for the CP to dry. If you get crappy thread
you'll find that out before it's time to put the CP on it. If you get very dark blotches in your wraps
that again is not enough CP. When you use CP just be sure to wet the threads.

Raymond Adams
Eventually, all things merge, and a river runs through it..

From what i found, simply look at the thread, read it before you buy it. if it is coated with silicone, it will say so... I use polyester thred and nyoln threads, i have not had a problem. if it is coated with silicone it will say so.