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SpinCast questions
Posted by: Lou Auret (204.16.161.---)
Date: September 21, 2009 09:22AM

I have never used a spin-cast rod!( I grew up on penn 49's,Mitchells and wooden centerpins. )
I want to play with one and have the parts laying around for a 7ft rod .
I have a regular fuji blank exposed baitcasting reel seat with trigger, first question is, will that work? The spincast reels i have seen are taller than regular baitcasters almost as high from the seat as a spinning reel. I am worried about torque in the rod from the high reel. The factory rods all seem to have some sort of reel seat that brings the reel down to where the reel is lower to the rod.
What about getting to the button to release line on the cast, will it be too high with this seat?
What about guides? The line gets chocked as it leaves the reel face so the whole 27x thing goes out as far as i can see. Its more like a baitcaster setup not so?
I was tending towards one of the match type guides with maybe a 10 or 8 ring but high framed as my first guide. Then down to a #6 low frame guide , laid out like i would a baitcaster guide on top based on static loading. Then start the spiral wrap with one bumper to try compensate for that very high reel and the twist on the rod it must induce (as i say never used one so i am guessing here). Rest would be #4's to the tip as required. Maybe look for lower reel of that type and go with a more conventional spiral wrap starting at second guide?
Suggestions/ help would be most appreciated.

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Re: SpinCast questions
Posted by: Tom Kirkman (Moderator)
Date: September 21, 2009 09:34AM

You would not use the spinning NGC (27X) with a spincast reel. A spincast rod is set up just like a conventional baitcasting rod.

If you do a spiral wrap, don't confuse a "bumper guide" with transition guides. They don't serve the same purpose.

The only way to tell if the seat is too high for you to reach the reel casting button with your thumb is to try it.

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Re: SpinCast questions
Posted by: Lou Auret (204.16.161.---)
Date: September 21, 2009 01:37PM

Thanks Tom. Tried out a bunch of spincast reels and was not happy. The rod only stops twisting in your hand when there is pressure/pull from a fish on the other end.
Doubt i am skilled enough to make that work out well.
Will change direction and build another baitcaster rod.

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Re: SpinCast questions
Posted by: Chris Davis (---.chs.bellsouth.net)
Date: September 21, 2009 02:14PM

Lou..another option is the under-spin type of spin cast reel. That design does away with top heaviness of coventional spin casters.

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Re: SpinCast questions
Posted by: Tom Kirkman (Moderator)
Date: September 21, 2009 02:29PM

Good idea.

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Re: SpinCast questions
Posted by: Mo Yang (---.static.rvsd.ca.charter.com)
Date: September 21, 2009 06:20PM

If you have not purchased the reel, you can try an UNDER spin. Spincast with a trigger that mounts like a spinning reel but is a spincast design.

Mo

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Re: SpinCast questions
Posted by: Chris Davis (---.flo.bellsouth.net)
Date: September 21, 2009 10:49PM

Good idea

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Re: SpinCast questions
Posted by: Lou Auret (204.16.161.---)
Date: September 22, 2009 07:44AM

Thanks for the ideas and suggestions. I have seen a small Daiwa baitcaster a buddy has called a 'pixie' and am in love with it and will go that route for the light weights i want to throw. Of course its an order of magnitude more pricey!

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Re: SpinCast questions
Posted by: roger wilson (---.hsd1.mn.comcast.net)
Date: September 22, 2009 10:49AM

Lou,
Although the new spin casters work well, why not go with a conventional spinning reel.
Lots and lots of advantages of a conventional spinning reel over a spin caster.

Although spin casting reels can work, the main problem - if you have one - is that the line can twist and tangle inside the hood of the spool and become very difficult to free up.

On the other hand, a spool of a spinning reel is visible at all times, so that if any line twists do occur, it is very apparent and quite easy to free.


From time to time I will have someone on the boat who has never fished before and has made a request for a spin casting reel. This includes children. I explain that it only takes a few minutes to learn the casting techniques to use a spinning reel and we spend the next few minutes learning how to cast with a spinning reel. If the user is a small person or child, I will use a smaller rod with a smaller reel to fit their hand.
Generally speaking, in only a few minutes, the person has the knack of casting with a spinning reel and we are off for the day.

I changed over to this policy many years ago when my children were small and in the boat. After the 10th line tangle for each of the reels, I asked the children to hand me their poles. I stripped off the reels and threw each of them as far as I could and vowed to never have another spin casting reel in my boat. I have kept my vow.

I have really not had any issues in teaching new fisher folks the easy techniques required to use a spinning reel.

Good luck
Roger

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Re: SpinCast questions
Posted by: Peter Sprague (---.reverse.vilayer.com)
Date: September 22, 2009 11:23AM

I can\'t understand this............ Spincast reels have built a half century reputation for being the most tangle free, trouble free reels in existence. I used them as a kid and never had an internal tangle. My kids used them and never had trouble. They seem to be the reel of choice for kids and occasional fishermen due to their trouble free nature. Their only downside would seem to be chincy drag systems and the inability to use a thumb or finger to momentary increases of drag pressure. Never heard of tangle troubles with spincast reels until I read your post just now.

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