Does anyone know where I can get a small Philly Eagles decal for a rod I am building? thanks and tight lines

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Michael I would think you could find the decal you want (size wise) and send it to decal connection or Anglers Workshop. They will make the decal for you. You're not selling the decal you are selling the rod so you should not be infringing on any copy right laws. The customer is requesting it.

Just my thoughts but I'm not a lawyer.

Decal Connection will NOT make the decal. They sell the decal and would be violating the copyright. Also, a copyright does NOT differentiate between personal or commercial use!! It's pretty simple, a copyright owner owns the material and you need their written permission to duplicate it

Mike (Southgate, MI)
If I don't want to, I don't have to and nobody can make me (except my wife) cuz I'm RETIRED!!

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If you purchase the officially licensed premade decals or jewelry items (for inlays), you can use them how ever you see fit without copyright infringement reprisals. Google the NFL Shop or Philly Eagles website and you should be able to come up with something. That's how I did my Steelers themed rods, with the exception that I purchased my decals / stickers, hat / lapel pins off the infamous @#$%& site.

Bill in WV

William Bartlett Wrote:
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> If you purchase the officially licensed premade
> decals or jewelry items (for inlays), you can use
> them how ever you see fit without copyright
> infringement reprisals. Google the NFL Shop or
> Philly Eagles website and you should be able to
> come up with something. That's how I did my
> Steelers themed rods, with the exception that I
> purchased my decals / stickers, hat / lapel pins
> off the infamous @#$%& site.

This isn't really the case ... at least not according to corporate attorneys practicing in intellectual property rights. Many trademark owners won't pursue the issue, but there are some that will. This is one of those, take your chances issues.

I don't understand!!! If you've purchased an officially licensed product, then who are THEY to tell you how you can use it. After all you paid your money for the license of the product. What matters if it's hanging in someones ear or pasted on a bumper or window, or ordaining a fishing rod. You still paid for it, you didn't steal it!! Not being a smart alek, just trying to understand!!

Bill in WV



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What I done with Virginia Tech was contact them and tell them my plans for a VT fishing rod. They agreed to allow me to have Decal Connection make 5 decals, in writing, it worked out very well and DC will make them with permission. All of this was done in emails.

DR

William Bartlett Wrote:
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> I don't understand!!! If you've purchased an
> officially licensed product, then who are THEY to
> tell you how you can use it. After all you paid
> your money for the license of the product. What
> matters if it's hanging in someones ear or pasted
> on a bumper or window, or ordaining a fishing
> rod. You still paid for it, you didn't steal
> it!! Not being a smart alek, just trying to
> understand!!

Bill ... the concept is actually quite simple. The trademark owner produced an item and sold it for use AS that item. What they didn't do, was produce an open license for the trademark. In other words, the bumper sticker can be placed on whatever you like ... as a bumper sticker. However, if you produce a different product using a portion of that sticker and resell it OR even give it away - they can pursue a trademark violation. Like it or not, that's the way it was explained to me.

Like I said, some companies could care less but some companies care a lot. Don't even think about stepping on the really big dogs ... the guys that have hundreds and even thousands of licensed products, fan websites, etc. Those are the types that will take offensive to you marketing a product bearing their logos.

I wouldn't hesitate to use an officially-licensed NFL decal on a rod I built for myself. I probably wouldn't hesitate to use one on a rod I gave away, either. If the NFL wants to sue me for this kind of non-commercial use, then they can be my guest: I bought something from them and used it in a non-commercial way. What the heck else did they expect me to do with it?

But I don't think I'd ever slap it on something I sold, especially if the decal is an intrinsic part of the product, like a decal on a fishing rod is. The NFL is not going to sue you if you sell a car with a "Dallas Stinks" bumper sticker on it, because the presence of the bumper sticker is incidental, and irrelevant to the sale. But when you make a piece of licensed merchandise an integral part of a commercially-made product -- and let's face it: from an aesthetic standpoint, decals on fishing rods are just that -- you're going over a line that I myself would not cross. It's not worth the hassle, to me anyway.

OK Jim and Chris, I get ya now!! I agree, I wouldn't put it on a rod I would be getting paid for, I see where that would cause a problem. I have, however, used officially licensed products on rods that I have built for friends and family, no money exchanged!! If they want to spend the big bucks on a lawyer to come after me for that, then more power to them. I just don't see ANY jury finding me guilty for something that I made NO money on!! JMHO Especially if it was a gift for a child, which is pretty much All I build for! Just a side note: I see the pewter pins used ALL THE TIME, on rods shown here and other Rodbuilding forums, if anyone would have a case, I'm sure Mr Harris would But I'm sure that he would never do that, as he was set up at one of the previous years expo's selling them. I have NO DOUBT that he knew full well what they were going to be used for. I would think that he was grateful that folks were using them for this purpose if even to just get his name and product out in the public eye!! Again, JMHO!! I'm sure that if I'm wrong for thinking that , someone would correct my thinking, and I welcome that!!

Bill in WV



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