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Permagloss
Posted by: Bruce Johnstone (---.cpe.cableone.net)
Date: February 28, 2009 02:43PM

I just repainted a rod with Testor's Model Master Metallic Spray Enamel. I let it cure at room temperature for about 72 hrs. Then coated with Permagloss. The permagloss softened the paint and actually removed some in a couple places.
I have used permagloss on a couple fo other rods but put it over the old finish and did not have the problem with softening the finish.
My question is how long do I need to let the new paint cure before applying the permagloss? Do I need to change to another type of paint.?

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Re: Permagloss
Posted by: Chris Davis (---.knology.net)
Date: February 28, 2009 02:59PM

I don't think you'll know that without some testing. I might not try putting P-Gloss on there until it has cured a week. Even then it should be on a scrap of blank or something similar. Some paints you might not ever be able to put it over. Some clear rod finishes may stand the hot solvents in P-Gloss better than paint. Chances are the rod finishes you have put it on were not new. Some of the spray can auto finishes are designed to be used with a clear coat. That might give you the look you want but may not be a durable as the PermaGloss

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Re: Permagloss
Posted by: bill boettcher (---.150.popsite.net)
Date: February 28, 2009 04:16PM

Enamel takes a long time to really cure to a hard surface.
The best thing I have used is any auto finishes like DuPliColor. They dry fast and can be coated - working fast - I let them sit overnight.

Bill - willierods.com

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Re: Permagloss
Posted by: Anonymous User (---.ptld.qwest.net)
Date: February 28, 2009 04:58PM

With any enamel at least 1 month, I have had some repaints that sat 6 months even then PermaGloss can and does soften or crinkle's the enamel. Enamel is not the stuff to use on rods doesn't flex very well ether.

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Re: Permagloss
Posted by: Robert Balcombe (207.118.61.---)
Date: February 28, 2009 05:04PM

Perma gloss is a hot Urethane. By that I mean the driers used to cure the Urethane are called hot, this has to do with the cure time. In the auto paint industry . They have slow, medium or fast driers. These are use in conjunction with how hot and humid the outside weather is like. So if Perma gloss is placed over a freshly painted rod the paint well lift.

Good Wraps Bob

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Re: Permagloss
Posted by: Robert Russell (---.cable.mindspring.com)
Date: February 28, 2009 05:35PM

I have never had good results with PG over paint of any kind.

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Re: Permagloss
Posted by: Sean Cheaney (---.cfl.res.rr.com)
Date: February 28, 2009 08:19PM

DupliColor paint (overnight dry), followed by Duplicolor clear coat as a sacrificial protectant (overnight dry).....then use PG....the PG likely softens and may damage clear coat, but in every instance I have done this, the actual paint is perfectly fine and any damage to the sacrificial clear coat is invisible.

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Re: Permagloss
Posted by: William Bartlett (---.proxy.aol.com)
Date: February 28, 2009 08:46PM

Bruce,

If you will shoot me an email, I have some info for you that may very well interest you in this situation. Would have emailed you but you addy is hidden.

Bill in WV

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Re: Permagloss
Posted by: Robert Balcombe (207.118.61.---)
Date: March 01, 2009 03:03AM

Bill you have my email address Please send me your info MGWOY
Good Wraps Bob

Good Wraps Bob

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Re: Permagloss
Posted by: Eric Viburs (12.151.174.---)
Date: March 01, 2009 05:12PM

From what I understand Permagloss uses a product called Zileen (spelling??) to thin it. I attempted something similar and had the same problem when I called the company they told me that they have not found anyting that it would not eat off or soften. They told me if I find something to let them know. For what it is worth.

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Re: Permagloss
Posted by: William Bartlett (---.proxy.aol.com)
Date: March 01, 2009 05:25PM

Back To ya BOB,

Thanks I need it!!!

Bill in WV

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