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Gene Bullard Diamond II
Posted by: Jason Alvarado (---.dc.dc.cox.net)
Date: January 19, 2009 08:46PM

Has anyone tried the "resurrected version" of this finish? From a couple of posts that I just read about the original, it was nothing short of awesome..... I'm about to place an order through one of our sponsors and noticed they have it in stock.

Jason

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Re: Gene Bullard Diamond II
Posted by: Raymond Adams (---.hsd1.ca.comcast.net)
Date: January 19, 2009 09:11PM

Used up 1/2 of a 4oz kit so far. While I wouldn't say AWESOME I have not had any
unfavorable issues either.

Raymond Adams
Eventually, all things merge, and a river runs through it..

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Re: Gene Bullard Diamond II
Posted by: Tom Kirkman (Moderator)
Date: January 19, 2009 10:08PM

I can't say that I like it as much as the original, but it's quite easy to use and yellows less than many other popular epoxies.

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Re: Gene Bullard Diamond II
Posted by: Chuck McIntyre (---.hlrn.qwest.net)
Date: January 19, 2009 11:35PM

I just went through 16 ounces of it. While not the worst, its not the best. I will be ordering more for future use soon however. It does what I need it to and its very flexible. I needed to warm the resin for better measurement, and until it cooled, it seemed to cause the mix to set up a bit faster. I started letting it cool before mixing and had no further issues. OK pot life, however thats par for the course with any finish I have used so far.
Chuck

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Re: Gene Bullard Diamond II
Posted by: Tom Kirkman (Moderator)
Date: January 20, 2009 08:00AM

All epoxies, if warmed, will set up more quickly. That's one of the properties of any epoxy. Set up and cure times are linked to temperature. At 90F you have about half the pot life and set up time that you would have at 70F. This is true of all epoxies.



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Re: Gene Bullard Diamond II
Posted by: John Sams (---.listmail.net)
Date: January 20, 2009 09:21AM

But not ALL epoxies cure at the same rate? Plus some cure down and others up.

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Re: Gene Bullard Diamond II
Posted by: Tom Kirkman (Moderator)
Date: January 20, 2009 09:33AM

You're partly correct. The particular formulation of the epoxy determines the rate at which it sets and cures. However, they are all similar in that for about every 18F up or down, you will either halve or double the rate of set and cure.

Epoxies cure by a chemical reaction - they do not dry in the way that a solvent based product such as common paint does (evaporation). If an epoxy has set to the touch on top, then it’s set equally all the way through. Epoxies don’t cure from bottom to top, or top to bottom, they cure throughout and at the same rate.

It’s worth mentioning that any time you have such a chemical reaction going on you’re going to get some exothermic heat generation which itself can cause the reaction to speed up a bit. This is why pouring the epoxy out on foil will slightly lengthen the pot life of the mix. You’re creating a larger surface area from which the heat can be dissipated. Of course, this won’t affect the epoxy on the wraps - it just keeps your mix from setting up as quickly as it would if you left it confined in a small cup. I don't need more than 3 or 4 minutes to finish a rod so I leave mine in the cup. But if you require more pot life, consider pouring it out onto some clean aluminum foil.

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Re: Gene Bullard Diamond II
Posted by: Jason Alvarado (---.dc.dc.cox.net)
Date: January 20, 2009 10:40AM

Excellent information gentlemen, thank you!

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Re: Gene Bullard Diamond II
Posted by: Chuck McIntyre (---.hlrn.qwest.net)
Date: January 21, 2009 07:27PM

Jason,
You are welcome. I just wanted to add that my 16 ozs was actually 8 ozs. Sure went the distance for me to do what I needed. :D
Chuck

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Re: Gene Bullard Diamond II
Posted by: Walter Higgins (---.207-68.elmore.res.rr.com)
Date: January 26, 2009 06:33PM

I used it on several rods I made for others and five of my own, I like it better than what I was using as it is smooth and looks good. I will let you know how it stands up to tournament fishing in a few weeks.

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