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0 or 00 wt. blanks
Posted by: Cody Vickers (---.dsl.ltrkar.swbell.net)
Date: January 11, 2009 09:17AM

I tried to search for it but couldn't get any results. Who makes 0 or 00 wt. rod blanks other than Sage. I know there is at least one other company but cannot remember who it is and don't feel like going through every sponsors web site to find it. I think I am finally going to get to build the 0 wt rod I have been wanting and want to weigh all of my options before ordering a blank. I have played with a sage TXL at the fly shop and love it but really don't like the color of the blank. Thanks in advance.

Cody

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Re: 0 or 00 wt. blanks
Posted by: Tom Kirkman (Moderator)
Date: January 11, 2009 09:46AM

AFTMA never set up any fly line weights for less than 2-weights, so rods rated to throw such lines aren't readily available or even agreed upon. What you're going to have to do in all probability is find something other than a fly rod blank - a very light UL or long light spinning or mooching blank that might give you want you want.

If you want something similar to the Sage, or less powerful, you'll have to run the CCS numbers on it and then look for something with a lower ERN.

If such blanks are made by anyone else I'm sure somebody will chime in and let you know.


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Re: 0 or 00 wt. blanks
Posted by: Paul McRoberts (---.org)
Date: January 11, 2009 10:33AM

You may try Dan Craft though I'm not sure what length blanks he has them in. Other than that, I think Sage has the market share of 0wt - 000wt blanks. You may also look for an older Sage SPL 0 wt blank. I have a factory built one and I believe it is a greenish blue color.

Paul

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Re: 0 or 00 wt. blanks
Posted by: Michael Blomme (---.spkn.qwest.net)
Date: January 11, 2009 02:17PM

Hi All,
Before retiring I worked and lived in Michigan and would fish the Rogue River for brook trout in the 8-10 inch class with an occasional 12 inch trout. I normally used a five or four weight line on an 8.5 or 9 foot rod. I began hearing about 1 and 2 weight rods--mostly from Orvis. I thought at the time that these might be useful for such small trout fished on small bushy streams like the Rogue. Now I am retired and fishing for small rainbows (and the occasional large Bull trout) on the South Fork of the Walla Walla River here in Eastern Oregon. Because of the very short casts and the brushiness of the river, I use a 7.5 foot 4 wt. rod. Finally I ask the question what is a zero weight (or double ought zero weight ) line or rod? As Tom says the AFTMA doesn't even define this line weight. I also wonder what the need for this degree or "lightness." I ask this not to be critical or facetious in any way, but with a desire to know and understand this new phenomena in fly fishing. Last year I asked a similar question regarding "micro" guides because I had not heard of such thing and wondered how small such guides were. As usual rod builders were happy to explain to me what the microguides were. I still haven't found a need for them, but time will tell.

For over forty years I have been building fly rods and tying my own flies. When I was younger I tied flies down to a #28--now I can't see them on the vise let alone on the water. I found that casting these small gnat like flies could be easily done with even a six weight line with the appropriate leader and tippet. I welcome any response and hoped to become enlightened in the near future. Have a good day folks.

Mike Blomme

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Re: 0 or 00 wt. blanks
Posted by: Cody Vickers (---.dsl.ltrkar.swbell.net)
Date: January 11, 2009 02:48PM

For me it is simple preference, and most of all, challenge. The challenge of catching the biggest fish possible on the smallest/lightest rod possible. Do I need it? Absolutely not, it is underkill in hunting terms, to say the least. I saw one, and I liked it. Most of my flies for bream will be too large for it but I will get more tackle and adjust. I catch very few trout under a 3/4 pound and most are 1-1 1/2 lb , and to catch a 1-2 lb bream where I live is common in the spring. I really don't think there was ever deemed to be a specific need for a fly rod this light but I like the fact that I can build a rod under 2 ounces and it will cast effortlessly. The fact that I catch very few trophies makes it feasible in my eyes. I think most people like extremely light weight rods because they are rather unique, and you don't see them every day. I can go to the river and every guy out there but me is fishing with a 5 or 6 wt rod and I just like to be different. So no, I don't think there is a need for them, it is just a novelty thing.

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Re: 0 or 00 wt. blanks
Posted by: Walt Natzke (---.dhcp.mghl.ca.charter.com)
Date: January 11, 2009 04:28PM

Without getting into the controversy of whether a 0wt actually even exists, Dan Craft is the only source I know of a 0wt blank:

Dan Craft - 6'1" 3pc:
[www.dancraftent.com]

Walt

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Re: 0 or 00 wt. blanks
Posted by: Cody Vickers (---.dsl.ltrkar.swbell.net)
Date: January 11, 2009 07:37PM

I am looking at either it or a sage TXL. I understand the point about the ERNs but the sage rods will cast the 0wt lines that they make quite efficiently. And my interest is in a 1.8oz or less rod, more than the weight of the line I am casting. I will find a line it will cast once I get the rod built. If I could make a 2 oz 8' 8wt with the power then I would likely be all over it too. I do have a 8'5" 2.3oz 3/4 wt that I use often but the lighter the better. You can cast all day with little or no fatigue.

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Re: 0 or 00 wt. blanks
Posted by: eric zamora (---.dsl.frsn02.pacbell.net)
Date: January 12, 2009 01:10AM

weights and strength conditioning... (chuckling).

eric
fresno, ca.

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Re: 0 or 00 wt. blanks
Posted by: Cody Vickers (---.dsl.ltrkar.sbcglobal.net)
Date: January 12, 2009 11:25AM

Why do I need that, I can just build a lighter Rod!!! I lift enough weight in my everyday job. When I am fishing I want it to be easy, at least physically.

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