Many supplies here are in 2 wall mounted cabinets in a shop that is heated and has A/C.
Checking on things the other day, I looked at 2 bottles ( 4 oz. ) of PG. They were purchased
this past summer. Within several days the plastic caps were replaced with white "Testers"
metal caps. About 1/3 of one bottle was used on a project. Now both bottles are solid
gel.
My wallet is a little un-happy; but will recover. I've got a lesson to learn. Any ideas
what happened ? ? ( a search gave no info )

jocko

PG...starts setting up once air comes in contact with iT...it will eventually set up in the bottle...try keeping it in the refrigerator...that helps but doesn't eliminate it...just buy in smallest quanities as you can


Dave

Jocko,

Once you place the testors caps back on the bottles, you have to tilt them upside down one time and then sit them on the shelf. This gets PG around the edges of the cap and "seals" the bottle.

I have a bottle sitting here now that had about 3 rods out of it and it's still thinner than water.

Did you use the plactic cap insert out of the original plastic PG cap? You need to do that also, it fits right in the Testors cap.

DR

Permagloss is a moisture curing urethane. Once you crack open a bottle, the rest is history.

If you'll make up one of the cans for PG storage as outlined here many times, you'll find it will then keep indefinitely - for years and years.

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"Once you crack open a bottle, the rest is history"

I have to dis-agree. My last 4oz bottle I had for a LONG time and used all but 1/3rd oz that did get thick. This bottle I have now still has 3oz + in it and it's thinner than water, it's several months old.

It's all about taking the time to "tip" as above, getting the top right, and tight everytime, and keeping the top off the bottle a very short time for each use.

DR

I have had it in the Refrigerator for over a year. It gets cold and thick but still works well. I just take it out and let it get to room temp.

If you live in a part of the country where the humidity is extremely low, you may be able to keep an opened bottle for quite some time. But not indefinitely.

A frost free refrigerator removes moisture from the air inside - this is why PG will last longer when kept in such a refrigerator.

Anything you do to keep moist air from it will help, including as DR mentioned, pouring out what you need into a small container and quickly capping the remainder in the bottle.

The can mentioned above, is still the best way to keep PG indefinitely. If you use a lot of PG, buy enough to fill a half pint can and you'll have a lifetime supply that will never gel or harden on you.

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What I do is poor what I need to use into a mixing cup. Then wipe the top threads off with a paper towel, well. replace the top - not overly tight.

Regular use of Perma Gloss - frequent opening - daily/weekly use -

- Is managed quite will by the use of a can.

The can is filled with two four ounce bottles to insure all air is removed during initial seal.

I can probably do 200 or more bass/inshore rods with a can full. The can allows use to the last drop.

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If a life time guarantee on a never ending Perma Gloss supply in the can was offered it sure would be nice -

Gon Fishn

I got a can from SAmmy Mickel at the last Expo in Charlotte, I think 2005. Filled it with a 4oz bottle of PG, and I still have no problems with it, and I rarely use it, maybe 5 times a year.

I don't use Permagloss on a regular basis but ordered a small bottle recently. I'm considering driling a hole in a Testors lid, inserting an eye screw, and placing that lid on the Permagloss bottle. I'd wrap the base of the lid with electrical tape to help seal the lid. Similar to the sealed can concept. I plan to store the glass bottle with the lid down. Thoughts?

Jeff



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 12/08/2008 01:22PM by Jeff Shafer.

Jeff,

The Testors caps ONLY FIT the 4oz PG version!!

DR

I do not have PG, but I have Dick Nite's moisture curing urethane. (Not for rod building purposes) Once this stuff sets up it will form a hockey puck. If you get any on the lip or threads, it will seal a can shut and you will need a vise and hammer to open it. I have however managed to keep the last quart I purchased flowing freely for more than the last year. Setting in the kitchen on top of cabinets. Average temps 75-85 degrees.


1st) Upon opening the first time, I used a turkey baster to transfer all the urethane to smaller containers (8 oz. Canning jelly jars with sealing lids and separate rings.)
2nd) Wipe any excess or drips from jar with virgin lacquer thinner
3rd) Place Vaseline on the threads and lip of the jar. (This ensures that if any liquid is ever left on the jar that it will not seal completely upon curing.)


Anytime I need to get any out, I just follow the same steps. I take out what I think I will need and discard any leftover. I never allow excess to drip off the baster back into the jar I am drawing from. (If you drip back or double dip into a can of D/N it will set the whole can off in a few weeks time.) In doing so, it keeps the amount of exposure to humidity to a minimum. I open and close the main jar as quickly as possible.


Eric