Hi All, hope everyone is well. I am experimenting with some Pearsall's silk thread and noticed, because it is not NCP thread, that the colour of the blank bleeds right through once you put finish on. I do want the thread colour to be noticeable with finish on, but I also want to allow some of the blank to bleed through to tone the thread colour down a bit.

Do any of you more experienced builders have suggestions (ie if I only apply one coat of CP will this achieve the ends I want or is there a particular manufacturer whose CP will allow me to achieve this end?).

Thanks, as always for your advise.
Gavin



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/11/2008 06:05AM by Gavin Schar.

Hi Gavin,

you could try thinning your cp. I have done this in the past and it does create a different effect to the thread.

Paul

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No - you either completely seal the thread and maintain the color, or you don't and it turns transparent. Heavily thinned CP is mostly water, and will result in your thread holding color in some spots and bleeding through in others. I don't think you'll like the "effect."

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I am building on a green Burkheimer blank so what I may try is leave teh green thread without CP and put CP on the red tipping so that this is visible.

Best,
Gav

If the CP wicks into the green, which is very likely, you will have a very unattractive mess. What I would suggest, is using NCP red for very thin, fine tags at the end of the guide wraps.

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Chromaseal.

Applied to the whole thing. No thinning.

Uncle Russ
Calico Creek Rods

Listen to TOM. Regular thread with CP will hold the color . With out CP and just finish will become transluncent, and the blank color will show thought. Depending on the color. Always experiment to see if you like the color. NCP is the thread that does not need CP. It can be used with the regulal thread, so you do not have to use CP. NCP looks a little flat to me ? Metallic thread thread does also not need CP. So if you want a trasparent look but want a certain trim or thread to hold the color, you can use it. Adds a little shine.
That is why it is good to experiment ( before you put the handle and seat on.) Put you thread on and color it to see what you like.
Or a piece of scrap blank in the same color.

Chromaseal isn't going to help you with this situation. You either seal the thread, or not. There is halfway point where the thread will bleed "just a little." You have 3 options - no CP and the thread turns transparent, use CP and hold the color, or apply it heavily thinned or haphazardly and get blotches all over your wraps.

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Tom is right. Either use CP or not. If you want a thread to stand out, use either NCP or matallic. ---
Or you can also put a tape under the thread and no CP Or paint under, and the color will show up thought the No CP thread. --- Many options . Experiment.

Thanks All. Will continue to experiement!

Thanks All. Will continue to experiement!

Gavin, don't forget that if you go the route of no CP and have a transparent finish, the foot of the guide is going to show. All of the testing and experimenting with the threads on scrap blanks will not show this unless you actually wrap a guide. You need to decide if you want to be able to see the guide foot in the finished product before you apply your finish. Greg.

Gavin, don't forget that if you go the route of no CP and have a transparent finish, the foot of the guide is going to show. All of the testing and experimenting with the threads on scrap blanks will not show this unless you actually wrap a guide. You need to decide if you want to be able to see the guide foot in the finished product before you apply your finish. Greg.

Good point Greg. I dind't think of that. I certainly dont want the guide foot to show on this rod. In the circumstances I am going to use CP and properly coat the wraps. Are all the CP brands the same or is there one that is better? Suppose its a personal choice?